224 weatherby magnum

[GJS]

Not for long, your a barrel burner now.....duck for cover....

[redline]

GriMo is right.

We are talking about a varmint cartridge (sorry anything that is in .224 is a varmint or target cartridge IMO).

The .224wby is a pointless waste of time when you have the likes of the 22-250 220swift and other cartridges that outperform and brass price is less than 1/4 of the .224 wby.

Sure there are some great weatherby cartridges and I can understand paying the premium price for those when you talk about big game hunting. That said I don't believe that two hunters of equal skill level that the Weatherby would give them the edge over a non-weatherby cartridge (except maybe in their mind).

What I love is the pretentiousness the Weatherby diehards possess. All I said was the 224 Weatherby is impractical as a varminter when there are cartridges that exceed its ballistics that are better value and you girls all get your knickers twisted.

Redline, thing is mate I wasn't talking about a 340wby I was talking about a varmint cartridge where brass is ridiculously expensive. Its fine if you are only going to have 50-100 pieces of brass but when you do a lot of shooting and take away 300-500 rounds away with you each trip its stupid to have a inferior cartridge that its brass costs more.

thank christ ur not talking about a 340wby as neither was I!!! (read my bloody post lol)

you talk about us wby lovers and yet ur the one who told me under no uncertain terms a 300wby was never going to shoot a pill off any size faster than 3000fps!!!

now don't knock em and stop running em down and some new guys might get em and shock horror may find them perfectly suitable for varminting (I know i have)

always amazes me the way guys say a wby is not worth it as it is so cost prohibitive yet they dont have one or shall i say WONT have one lol



(go the 22-250) they rock

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don't worry boys, i just moved up to a cheaper and better performing cartridge.... 22-250!

And now you are at the level of an even better performing Cartridge

[kjd]

GriMo is right.

We are talking about a varmint cartridge (sorry anything that is in .224 is a varmint or target cartridge IMO).

The .224wby is a pointless waste of time when you have the likes of the 22-250 220swift and other cartridges that outperform and brass price is less than 1/4 of the .224 wby.

Sure there are some great weatherby cartridges and I can understand paying the premium price for those when you talk about big game hunting. That said I don't believe that two hunters of equal skill level that the Weatherby would give them the edge over a non-weatherby cartridge (except maybe in their mind).

What I love is the pretentiousness the Weatherby diehards possess. All I said was the 224 Weatherby is impractical as a varminter when there are cartridges that exceed its ballistics that are better value and you girls all get your knickers twisted.

Redline, thing is mate I wasn't talking about a 340wby I was talking about a varmint cartridge where brass is ridiculously expensive. Its fine if you are only going to have 50-100 pieces of brass but when you do a lot of shooting and take away 300-500 rounds away with you each trip its stupid to have a inferior cartridge that its brass costs more.

thank christ ur not talking about a 340wby as neither was I!!! (read my bloody post lol)

you talk about us wby lovers and yet ur the one who told me under no uncertain terms a 300wby was never going to shoot a pill off any size faster than 3000fps!!!

now don't knock em and stop running em down and some new guys might get em and shock horror may find them perfectly suitable for varminting (I know i have)

always amazes me the way guys say a wby is not worth it as it is so cost prohibitive yet they dont have one or shall i say WONT have one lol



(go the 22-250) they rock

thank christ ur not talking about a 340wby as neither was I!!! (read my bloody post lol)

How about you read my post first mate. I stuffed up on an insignificant point (ie I could have said any other wby cartridge it don't matter.)

you talk about us wby lovers and yet ur the one who told me under no uncertain terms a 300wby was never going to shoot a pill off any size faster than 3000fps!!!

Ahh no I didn't. I just disagreed with your claimed figures(which I can't remember but I thought they were outlandish) as I couldn't find ANY loading data that supported them. Never at anytime did I say that it wasn't going to shoot a pill of any size over 3000fps. I wouldn't say that when there are projectile weights from 110gn to 250gn in .308. It makes no sense.
Now you may have proved me wrong in my opinion and I'll accept that but: I HAVE NEVER SAID THAT THE 300WBY WILL NOT PUSH ANY PILL OF ANY WEIGHT FASTER THAN 3000fps.

now don't knock em and stop running em down and some new guys might get em and shock horror may find them perfectly suitable for varminting (I know i have)

Why would I not run the .224 weatherby down when it is slower than a 22-250rem, more expensive and I've never seen a 224wby win a benchrest comp (22-250's have).

always amazes me the way guys say a wby is not worth it as it is so cost prohibitive yet they dont have one or shall i say WONT have one lol

Hang on. I'm not a Weatherby basher And go back to reading my post:

Sure there are some great weatherby cartridges and I can understand paying the premium price for those when you talk about big game hunting. That said I don't believe that two hunters of equal skill level that the Weatherby would give them the edge over a non-weatherby cartridge (except maybe in their mind).

I'll say it once again for you. There are some great wby cartridges that are superior to all other factory cartridges. These may well be worth the expense however, the .224 Weatherby is not one and is too expensive and inferior to other better, faster, cheaper options.

Are we a bit clearer now that I have had to basically repeat my last post?

Cheers!

[redline]

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[kjd]

whatever

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Used in an argument to admit that you are wrong without admitting it so the argument is over.

[andrewk]

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Used in an argument to admit that you are wrong without admitting it so the argument is over.

fark keithy, run for prime minister. i'll vote for ya

anyway a few more posts and i'll be clear into 220 swift territory.

[Stonewall]

Many years ago I bought a Varmintmaster in .22/250.
Now I rather wish that I had bought the .224 Weatherby caliber instead.
It would have been much easier at that time .
The best wood I ever saw on a Weatherby was on a Varmintmaster in Vermont .
It was stocked in fantastic claro with about six colours mixed -words fail me .
When my rifle came from Saeur it had the dud wood batch .
Replace the trigger on the German made rifles IMMEDIATELY before fore it falls apart.

It reminds me of the .22 Br Rem capacity cases that are so popular now for a very good reason.

Glenn

[redline]

whatever

1. whatever
Used in an argument to admit that you are wrong without admitting it so the argument is over.

well u better change it to something more along the lines off who cares, I know what i have and like and it does me just fine,

I know it dont suit u but when all is said and done so what lol

[kjd]

hahaha You're such a fanboy redline lol

[220]

Except that brass is 2 to 4 times more expensive which really makes it impractial as a varminter when there are cartidges out there that match or exceed its ballistics that are of much better value IMO.

Same could be said about the HMR but people are still buying them. Its a bit like driving a Merc or Daewoo both will get you to where your going but one does it with a bit of style.

[GriMo]

pardon the ignorance but what rimfire exceeds the .17hmr's balistics but is four times cheaper?

[220]

pardon the ignorance but what rimfire exceeds the .17hmr's balistics but is four times cheaper?

You need to compare apples with apples I could be wrong but I doubt norma wby brass is 4 times the cost of norma swift brass.
Even allowing for the cost of brass any of the 17 centrefires can be loaded for less cost than HMR ammo and out perform it by a considerable margin.
If performance was the only criteria for a cartridges existance there would be very few to choose from, 22cal developement would of ceased over 70 years ago with the introduction of the swift.

[GriMo]

US$54.99 for the .22-250 brass.

And apples with apples. Cant compare a .17 centrefire with a 17 rimfire. The need to reload, cost of a press & dies etc would all need to be factored in to fairly compare the total cost of ownership. With 2 centrefires we can directly compare costs.

[CBM]

Another thing that I find amusing is that the 224WBY's only competition when it was released was the 220 Swift.Unfortunately you had to get one in the 2nd most overated clunker ever made,- the Pre 64 Winchester.
It was several years before you could get something with similar performance to the 224 in a factory gun, when Winchester finally woke up to itself and came out with the much improved post 64 Winchester rifle in the 225 winchester cartridge.This was followed by Browning with the legitimised 22-250 cartridge.
So once again Roy was the leader of the pack and the others followed.

Keep smiling,
Charlie.