What's needed to run a successful fly shoot?

[243redmist]

G'day guys
Iam looking a bit of advise on running a shoot,Iam looking at maybe trying to boost numbers to our (Tamworths 500m Fly).
Being new club & to the disapline i would like to get shooters thoughts on what would make a good fly shoot GOOD.

In the way of prizes.
What would be acceptable and how many prizes are the norm.?
Iam thinking best score light & heavy gun then best group and best junior

Cost? (what is the norm for a entry fee) iam thinking $50

Also how many targets 3 or 5 ?

Do shooters have a problem doing a shift in the butts?
It will be held May 30th (so it wont be stinking hot or frezzing cold i hope).


I will add to this as i think of questions.

PS. if you are not doing anything the 30th of may let me know and come to Tamworth.If i get the numbers i might look at holding a 200m rimfire fly at out other range in town on the sunday morning.Get it over and done with so travellers can get a early start home.

Thanks fellas.

[Ackley Improved]

Mate

Here is a little list!

1. Target frames numbered etc
2. Bisalloy or harden steel for splash plates, 1 per target. Paint needed as well.
3. A pit crew. I know for me if I were to drive that distance I would be shooting both classes, which doesnt leave much time for pit crew duties.
4. Make it go towards the SOTY for 500m Fly. Would not travel if it is not recognised.
5. Enough benches to cater the number, although a few details is fine.
6. 5 scoring targets plus the one warmer target.
7. Accomodation close by
8. Food/drinks during the course of the day
9. Amenities like toilets etc.
10. Cost is currently $25 per class I think...

Also, do you have a 1000yd range nearby? Could run Fly Saturday, 1000yds Sunday?

I cant think of anything else..

Cheers
AI

[john mc]

hello 243redmist
i will be there to shoot the fly on the 30th i'm going to shoot the Pro-Cal 500 on the first weekend of the month at little river and will visit canberra on the 23rd for benchrest 100 and 200 i would like to know how to get to your range and if i can camp overnight there ? i also will be looking for rough sapphires in your area - i facet jemstones in my spare time ( whats left after shooting ) and the sapphire is the stone for my wedding aniversary this may and any help would be great I think A I has covered all the important points of running a good shoot but if splash plates are to be used an aiming spot in the middle make it much easier for the 3 sighters to be used hope to see many A V members there so book me a bench for light gun regards john mc

[243redmist]

Mate

Here is a little list!

1. Target frames numbered etc (yep)

2. Bisalloy or harden steel for splash plates, 1 per target. Paint needed as well.(nope you get a sighter target that is spotted for you by the people in the butts)

3. A pit crew. I know for me if I were to drive that distance I would be shooting both classes, which doesnt leave much time for pit crew duties.
(this could pose problem being such a small club with only a few members being dedicated we may need you to do a deatail in the butts,that no doubt could be handled on the day.)

4. Make it go towards the SOTY for 500m Fly. Would not travel if it is not recognised.
(iam sure it could be arranged but iam not sure how to go about it)

5. Enough benches to cater the number, although a few details is fine.
(umm is 8 enough)

6. 5 scoring targets plus the one warmer target.
(well i can't see a problem with that)

7. Accomodation close by
(how close do you want it,it's about 15mins out of Nemingha or 20 out of Tamworth)

8. Food/drinks during the course of the day
(there won't be a 4 course lunch served at a dinning hall, but a BBQ will be on if i know that people will show up)

9. Amenities like toilets etc.
(yep there is a dunny, and a few tree's)

10. Cost is currently $25 per class I think...
(thanks)

Also, do you have a 1000yd range nearby? Could run Fly Saturday, 1000yds Sunday?
(nope)

I cant think of anything else.. ( cheers )

Cheers
AI

Thanks a heap for your imput AI what would expect as a prize mate?

[243redmist]

hello 243redmist
i will be there to shoot the fly on the 30th i'm going to shoot the Pro-Cal 500 on the first weekend of the month at little river and will visit canberra on the 23rd for benchrest 100 and 200 i would like to know how to get to your range and if i can camp overnight there ? i also will be looking for rough sapphires in your area - i facet jemstones in my spare time ( whats left after shooting ) and the sapphire is the stone for my wedding aniversary this may and any help would be great I think A I has covered all the important points of running a good shoot but if splash plates are to be used an aiming spot in the middle make it much easier for the 3 sighters to be used hope to see many A V members there so book me a bench for light gun regards john mc

John look forward to seeing you their.I will endenvor to get a map up so others can find us.Very straight forward.

[a.JR]

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[dg]

243 redmist

in to addition to what has also been mentioned above, perhaps some thought may or may not be needed in regard to the following:-

* bench allocation/draw - it's probably easier for the organisers, if as many nominations as possible are obtained prior to event so that a bench draw can be prepared and displayed or circulated. this allows competitors to set up flags early and not hold up the commencement of competition on the day.

* at times, some people may be sharing equipment with others or wish to share the same bench, so the earlier they make notification, the better.

* also in regard to the "bench draw", as long as it is done fairly and openly (either by computer programme or 'out of the hat') everyone should be happy.

* the early notification/publication of dates, venue, directions for location of range ( if necessary), contact details of organisers, match schedules/ details etc. makes it much easier for potential attendees to plan, organise time off, book accommodation etc.

* depending on the situation of individual ranges, sometimes it helps to know if competitors need to take their own fold up tables for cleaning/storage purposes and or stools/seats for the benches.

cheers
dave g

[Mick]

Well, most important is being organised before the event for any shoot. Do anything you can before the day to minimise dicking around on the day. Stuff like numbering targets and sorting them into details and target numbers.

Also, it is pretty much necessary for there to be a splash plate or sighting target hanging below your record target. The rules allow for 3 shots on a sighter (either metal splash plate or paper) and 5 shots at the record target for each detail. Batemans Bay for example use their sillhouette rams as splash plates and run white paint over them between details.

There should be no need for anybody to do much in the butts. The only spotting you get during a fly shoot is from the splash plate, and whatever you can see on the record target through your scope. Target crew goes up between details and pulls off targets to bring back for scoring, and then staples up the targets for the next detail and heads back. A lot of people spend their time between details cleaning rifles and reloading, so it is difficult to get shooters to do a shift in the butts considering they are having a hard enough time being ready to shoot their detail. We pay a target crew of 2 for all our shoots.

You need a dedicated scorer. You'll find that the scoring is pretty much a full time job for the day if you get a good turnout.

As for prizes, for both Canberra shoots we have a trophy for 1st in each class and 1st over all. 2nd and 3rd get plaques, as does small group and juniors. If you can add to that, you can't go far wrong with any type of shooting gear as prizes. We had quite a good prize pool for the Federal Cup (powder, primers etc) until some wanker changed the laws on transfer of powder here. Something we are looking to fix up is the prize pool here.

A BBQ and some cold drinks, coffee/tea facilities are a must. It's a long day, and people get hungry and thirsty. We actually have the Lions Club turn up with their gear and charge for food. They do burgers, steak sambos, stuff like that. You may have a fundraising type organisation up your way that will do the same.

So yeah, biggest deal is having all your stuff arranged beforehand. That way all you have to do on the day is shoot, and maybe go pull down some tatgets and staple up some new ones.

[Mick]

Also, for it to be a SOTY event it needs to be 5 targets and a warmer. Have found that in this format any more than 3 details will make for a very long day. We usually start at 9 and finish at 4:30 or so with 3 details. Any more than that and you're looking at about 6:30 or so after presentations.

[Ackley Improved]

Mick..

It appears no splash plates will be used, and the pit crews job will be pulling and marking the sighter target...

Splash plates are the go.... easier!

Cheers
AI

[243redmist]

With our range it is not currently able to shoot steel so a spotted sighting targets are a must.sorry gents
Is there a problem with paper sighter targets?

JR i'll pm you my email so as i can obtain his number.thanks

[Mick]

Sydney use paper instead of splash plates. Pretty much as long as there is somewhere to put 3 sighting shots per target, it's fine. Without that it unfortunately wont be considered as a SOTY event.

[243redmist]

Sydney use paper instead of splash plates. Pretty much as long as there is somewhere to put 3 sighting shots per target, it's fine. Without that it unfortunately wont be considered as a SOTY event.

That no problem mick.we just can't run splash plates.

JR could you PM your email addy please mate.I can't seem to send you a PM.Thanks

[a.JR]

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[243redmist]

Thanks JR.I'll give him a ring later on.

Thanks a bunch guys i'll sit back for a couple of hours now and try to digest all that and see what i can come up with.

A note to the local blokes (that wear skirts you know who you are lol)

I would like it if you guys can let me know if you are going to attend so i can whoop your girly arses with a factory gun.lol

know really just wanna work out numbers.No point having 36 shooters turn up when i can only cater for 24.

Will know doubt have a few question more later on thanks a bunch