Br newbie...

[dave]

Hi all,

Well im starting to get the itch to do some br as my time for varmint shooting is slowly being eaten away by other commitments so thought id get some time behind the rifle in the br scene. Im going to off load a couple rifles and a few scopes to get me going but what would you think is a good start. Ive got a varmint rifle chambered in 6br which could be a good start but was thinking of something else as well. Possibly a 308 to keep costs down, 30br would be nice and maybe a 6,5-284 but not 100% on that one. Also what groups at what ranges are winning competitions these days as ive got no idea what i should be aiming for...(excuse the pun)

Cheers
Dave

[Rinso]

What sort of BR mate .. ie short or long range .. Where are you located ???

cheers
Rinso

[ogre6br]

Mate
If I was you I'd use that sweet 6BR you have to get your feet wet in the BR scene

If the bug really bites then you can pay SC many $$ to build you a true comp gun.

Depending on the weight of your 6 BR you can compete in a couple of classes of short range BR
500M fly
300m Leeton
600 BR
F-class out from 300y out to 1000 Y
and maybe even field rifle and met silly wet

just taylor your loads to suit

Later
p

[Ackley Improved]

Again.. type of BR.. distinctive two groups. Short range/long range

Short range- 6mmPPC choice is easy

Long range- Have a Lightgun built- caliber... let the debate begin!

There is more than enough knowledge on this site to get you up and running, and also a smith to build you a rifle?

You want to buy one of mine?

Cheers
AI

[woob614271]

AI, we all know you'd just go build another (and better!) one if you did sell one of your collection....

[dave]

lol good point woob! Um probably just short range at this stage just to get things going. I was having a look at the farm and think i can get a clear line of fire from 300-500m easily but further could be tricky as i would need a bit of practice i would say no doubt the 6br is a 1:8 twist which i have been using 105s in but havent done much load development as i havent had the time with lambing and work so will try and sit down and do some serious testing asap. Did some one mention you should look at testing loads at 250yards to get a good indication of what works further out???

[ogre6br]

I think you should see if anyone has any part boxes of BR projectiles in the projectile swap meet

Something in 66-70 weight range

Mild load of BM2 or 2219 or anything to get you at about 3200 FPS- (mimic of a 6PPC load)

and see how it shoots at 100 or 200

I know your twist rate isn't optimum for these projectiles but there have been many 6BR shooters with fast twists that say that spinning the projectiles a bit faster doesn't detract from accuracy.
I dont know that from Adam - but you have a 1:8 and thats what you have to work with.

Ned K said in a recent post a mate was using some 70 Sierra BK's in a 6PPC retired comp barrel as a varmint gun
The Sierras might be worth a try

In the .30 cal stuff a lot of .30 BR shooters use the Speer 125 TNT as their practice projectile because it's accuracy is 99% of the comp projectiles at significant cost savings.

With you just learning- and I'm in the same boat- I suggest that technique issues/problems will loose you more potential of a good group than the !% advantage that a comp projectile will get you.

Using cheaper projectiles that group well will get you on the line more often so you can watch and learn from top shooters like Ned etc

just a suggestion- but as I said I'm learning about this comp stuff myself

Later
p

[a.JR]

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[Rinso]

Dave,

Firstly I would say you need to go to your local range and see whats on.

If you are looking short range BR ie 100 & 200 then the 6PPC is the undisputed king. However I would say start with your 6 BR (whats it weigh ?) and see how you like the sport first. Actually any reasonably accurate rifle will do for a start in club events.

If you are looking at Long Range then I would still start with the 6 BR you have and see if you like it.

NRA F class the 6 BR will do for F Open up to 600.

As for whats winning well at Fly lately you need 50+ per target and 2-3 inch groups .. 1000yds at Canberra in Light gun you needed a 132mm agg to win July.
100/200 BR you need a gun capable of .1 and aggs of .2500 - .3000
F class varies by club but certainly possibles or close to in good conditions.

I advocate you using the 6 BR you have as you need to shoot a few matches to see that you like the comp in question and to get a feel of what you need. The 6 BR is not ideal for many of the matches discussed but you will lose quite a lot when starting out, regardless of equipment and you dont have to spend a lot of money to try the matches with that BR in the cupboard.

cheers
Rinso

[Ackley Improved]

AJR, well said!

Cheers
AI

[Ned Kelly]

G'Day Dave,
well find out what is available within an 1hr or so from your home and start that way first.

a.JR and rinso have given VERY good advice; I cannot really add to their suggestions.

If you're interested in SR BR matches hunt up some 70gn SMK's as a minimum or try some 65-68gn bergers or locally made bullets, ask around but PVM from procal can certainly help with suppliers. Get some good basic wind flags too, copy what flag designs you see in matches, they will be your BEST piece of kit to improve you're accuracy and shooting skills

Main thing is to have fun, ask lots of dumb questions (which is mandatory for begineers and we have ALL been there) and perservere!

good luck and go gettum!

Cheerio Ned

[dave]

Cheers fellas, still waiting on the NF for the 6br and then will get into some load development and then a bit of good old fashioned pratcice. Will post pics of some groups to see what you guys think.....providing the scope turns up soonish damnit i hate waiting