Single-shot rifles

[Bullcat]

o.k. this might be a dumb question, but I`m only learning...

Are single-shot rifles more accurate than rifles with mags?

[Brad Y]

I reckon its got more to do with the bloke behind it mate. With single shots you have to make it count as you cant rip another off real quick.

[Ackley Improved]

Single shot actions are more rigid, have more bedding area. This gives a slight advantage over a repeater, as it eliminates (not totally) another factor that hinders accuracy.

I enjoy single shot rifles, I used to not like them, but now actually prefer them.

Cheers
AI

[paz]

make it count as you cant rip another off real quick.

Dunno about that brad, you watched "Quigley" lately, he stickes em between his fingers and gets em off pretty quick, will give it a go with my rugged '06 when i get her shot in (btw, seriously thinking of handi rifle in 45-70).
As far as accuracy, i will let you know when i start hand loading for mine.

Paz

[theMISSIONARY]

i had a H&R 17M2 that i used for hunt and field rifle rapid fire was hard but i was only half a second off!

the little cases makes it hard .223 and up makes for faster reloading!

i have a Baikal .223 at the moment(still trying loads)it is very stiff so speeds not easy and if you laying down it makes the break actions harder to reload a falling block(ruger#1,#3 Martini highwall etc) are faster in the prone position

also a ejector helps.....just don't get hit in the face with the cases in a break action it happened only once

[CBM]

o.k. this might be a dumb question, but I`m only learning...

Are single-shot rifles more accurate than rifles with mags?

If we are talking about Bolt action rifles of similar quality,No,not from the rifles I have owned.
For example I had a Stolle Kodiak repeater in 6PPC,Maddco barrel-Jewel trigger McMillan graphite B R stock etc ,it would shoot little groups just as easily as the Stolle Teddy,Nesika etc I have owned and compared to the other 6 PPC competition guns at the local rifle range.
A few examples of the Stolle Kodiak at 100 yards,10 shot group top then 5 shot group below






5 shot group at 100 yards

There are advantages when putting a rifle together when it has less bits to make work,but out and out accuracy no.


Charlie

[singleshot]

quote / If we are talking about Bolt action rifles of similar quality,No,not from the rifles I have owned.
For example I had a Stolle Kodiak repeater in 6PPC,Maddco barrel-Jewel trigger McMillan graphite B R stock etc ,it would shoot little groups just as easily as the Stolle Teddy,Nesika etc I have owned and compared to the other 6 PPC competition guns at the local rifle range.
A few examples of the Stolle Kodiak at 100 yards,10 shot group top then 5 shot group below...

There are advantages when putting a rifle together when it has less bits to make work,but out and out accuracy no.


Charlie[/quote]

Totally agree Charlie. I have a passion for singleshot bolt actions, but not because they are superior accuracy wise. Singleshot bolt actions are much easier to setup correctly in a stock.
I once had a 40x Rem repeater with a 30" Obermeyer barrel in 308w. I won alot of trophies with that rifle. I had it correctly pillar bedded into a McMillan stock.
The main part of the action that counts is in the locking lug recess to barrel section in my opinion.

Cameron

[theMISSIONARY]

the Omark i use to own out shot all my hunting factory single shots hands down.......hell i might even trip over another omark one day soon

[r_j_t1982]

i think (that is i dont know...have only heard etc etc) that a single shot can be bedded that tiny bit better and thats the only reason they're used for BR. better bedding equals better accuracy. but of course we are only talking about a TINY bit better so for serious competition benchrest/full bore/flyshooting etc a single shot MAY offer that tiny tiny beesdick of an advantage, in general/hunting use it'll make absolutely no difference imo

[Ned Kelly]

G'Day All,
single shot actions are more rigid than repeater actions in general. It comes down to the amount of material removed for loading ports, magazine ports etc. A BR action usually has a thick walled reciever to increase the rigidity of the action and any material removed from the top or bottom of the action serverely reduces the stiffness of the design.

The top "strap" of the action is in tension from the weight of the barrel and the lower "strap" is under compression from the barrel. If you remove material from the bottom for a magazine you are reducing the support for the barrel and hence accuracy "could" be compromised.

That is not to say actions that are repeaters cannot be made to shoot, on the contrary, I had a Rem600 repeater converted to a non-sleeved BR rifle glued to the stock and it shot brilliantly. Probably this was due to it being a complete glue in of the action to the stock.

As for bedding, if it is not a glue in, then you can have minute flexing of the action and i'd expect it to be greater if it was a factory magazine repeater. Custom repeater actions are usually strong enough to allow a magazine, and I'd estimate they are even stiffer than a factory single single shot action, simply because they have thicker walls than most factory single shot actions.

That's why I love my Hall and Bat, beefy S/S actions, good bedding area for a glue in, and a proven competitive track record of success for the manufacturer's designs.

hope this helps

Cheerio Ned

[MuzNZ]

i have a Baikal .223 at the moment(still trying loads)it is very stiff

Trip to gunsmith fixes that mines as smooth as now.

[theMISSIONARY]

i have a Baikal .223 at the moment(still trying loads)it is very stiff

Trip to gunsmith fixes that mines as smooth as now.

it should free up with work....its only fired about 100 rounds so its still new......BUT the trigger is going to have smithing work to that!!! the trigger is the Baikal's biggest down fall i think