Muzzle brakes

[Jmc]

Merry christmas everyone just a quick question. Muzzle brakes for a 30 cal what should I look for have no idea what I'm looking for. it will be part of my xmas present from my wife I want to make sure its works lol

[kickinback]

I have 2 terminators. They work.






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[Jmc]

Do they reduce the recoil bye 50% ? What's best ports or the one with lots holes ?

[kickinback]

The 338 edge is the equivalent of a 243. The 7mm rm is about the same.


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[The Raven]

OK, it's not a 30 cal but my 270 came with a muzzle brake of unknown origins (drilled ports). I suspect its a factory one that came with the rifle.

It does make a significant reduction in recoil, having tested it with and without. I'd rate it at 50% less felt recoil, which means I can stay on target...unlike my 308 (non-braked) that leaps all over the bench with a bipod.

The one downside is the noise. It's bloody loud to anyone behind the trigger or on either side of the rifle. So look for some good hearing protection.

As to the technicalities of which design is better I can't offer much advice.

[Glenn]

I have 3 Terminator, 30, 338 and 375.
They work very well!

What calibre 30 cal do you have?

Have a look at the Terminator brake recoil testing on YouTube.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=njfFOzM3b8A

I would only use Terminator brakes.

Glenn

[Jmc]

Thanks everyone it's for a 308 that I'm putting together. Will try and find one this week

[Camel]

Thanks everyone it's for a 308 that I'm putting together. Will try and find one this week

Have a 308 muzzle break in the shed, dunno what brand, only cost me 50 bucks and post, yours for the same if you want.

[MISSED]

I have shot a few rifles fitted with muscle breaks and was gifted a 300 Winmag that had been Magna Ported .

Can i suggest you get a properly fitted and timed break

But expect no one to want to shoot anywhere near you.

[Rabbitz]

But expect no one to want to shoot anywhere near you.

Yes, this.

If you are thinking of using it on a range expect your neighbours to give you a gobful as they pack up and leave.

Singularly the worst piece of equipment allowed on busy ranges are muzzle brakes. I guess it is just an extension of the 'me first' way of the world.

[Tony Z]

Unfortunately rabbitz the chassis stocks that a lot of theses rifles get put into are so poorly designed they require a brake to keep the muzzle level. I have fired a lot of these rifles, custom and factory like the RPR and A1, they truly are junk and do require a brake to settle them for that "follow up shot". Because there is no give in the stock, when they strike the shoulder they look for an escape route, usally up and to the right for a right handed shooter and always come to rest a long way from where you started. Hence the requirement for a brake. Being alloy, the stocks transmit 100% of the recoil unlike a good composite that absorbs a lot of energy before it hits the shoulder. The price of cool.

[Rabbitz]

Hi Tony,

Poor design and 'wank factor' does not ameliorate the discomfort and damage that the use of muzzle brakes cause to other shooters and their equipment on rifle ranges.

I have seen more than one neighbouring rifle dislodged from its bench, as well as many a sundry item knocked off the adjacent bench by the muzzle blast.

It is the reason I have stopped making the trek out to the SSAA Silverdale and St Marys ranges. After two visits to Silverdale with rimfires and a .222 Rem, then having moronic rednecks with large 30 Cals with brakes placed on either side of me, meaning I simply was unable to shoot groups as the muzzle blasts were knocking the rifle around on the bags. Plus making it a dangerous and uncomfortable place to sit.

Similar thing on the 50m indoor range at St Marys. (Why on earth you would shoot a large 30 Cal at 50m is beyond me, but plenty do, so there must be a reason...).

Muzzle brakes have their place but it is not on a cheek by jowl, public range.

[Tony Z]

I fully agree rabbitz. I'm with you 100%. But as i pointed out, a good rifle fully customized to bad can be tamed with a brake. They still shoot crap, they think it's a BR rifle, but you cannot tell them when the tacticool bug bites. What they shoot at a 100 yards, most of us varmint shooters do at 300.
For example, ranging and testing loads in my 5.6x50 yesterday. Three shots at 315 yards, no brake, at Peppa Pig to get drop data.

[Rabbitz]

Well I am sure that group gave you a small amount of Xmas cheer, being it is a "new" rifle and all.

As for the tacticool set, as I can't win that fight I have pretty much curtailed my CF shooting, other than the odd visit to my brothers place - but it is six hours away and far too farkin hot this time of year

[Seddo]

Terminators are great ar reducing recoil but they are not quite to use, you cant gave 1 without the other.