come to your senses Trev

[shane]

Ok firstly let me say that i believe you would be competitive with the 20 ppc trev. It would work fine as a good learning curve but you would have to work hard for it.

Basicly all i need to point out is that for short range bench rest there is yet to be another round come to light that performs as good as the 6mm ppc for such events. Other have been tried and some are very good but often have much more case work required so the 6 ppc has the advantage.

Yes the sako 461 was made as a ppc, shit you can still buy original 461 ppc extractors. But they are hard to find. And if you do find one dont tell the seller you are going to pull the barrel on it or they may not sell it to you. Some guys are like that, dont know why they are just another mass produced rifle!

Only other advice i can give is dont even think of touching a sabbatti or ruger in ppc. And dont dare turn down ppc cases to suit 223 bolt faces.
cheers,
Shane

[Mick]

The 30 BR seems to be getting a good wrap lately as well, both for score and group shooting.

[trevort]

Shane, your not the only one who has me on the 6ppc, just reading Benchrest Shooting Primer and hear all about it in there too. Sometimes you just dont need to re invent the wheel. As said on the phone, I'll pay you for the 20 cal barrel when it comes but as soon as the action and stock arrive for the PPC can you please chamber it in 6ppc as like you said, you have a suitable barrel there.

Ogre has too much time on his hands to come up with all these ideas . I do not want a match grade barrel on a ruger or sabatti action.

I have thought of a really good plan for the 20 cal barrel already but no point posting about it as 1, I have no money to do it and 2, I'll probably change my mind before I have the money!

[ogre6br]

I only put the Ruger and Sabbatti actions in the thread for shits and giggles- and a bit of a fishing trip


Shane I'm interested in asking why you say not to turn the rims down on PPC cases to fit the 223 boltface

I am thinking of doing it so I can use Another Tikka action I have here in .223 to be made into a .20 PPC.

It's not that much to turn off is it?? PPC rim is approx 440 and the boltface on a .223 would be 380-385 so it's a 60 thou turn.

please explain to me what the problem is- in a much detail as you are willing to share if it's a safety reason.

Thanks
later
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[shane]

Gday Ogre,
Yeh mate it all a safety issue. This being a public forum there can be people that would see this and think shit i can machine this or that case down to do this or that. Next thing they are wearing something.

There are cases that this can be done to quiet safely, but not many. I know that if you done this to a ppc case you would most likely get away with it but if you had an overload or a weak case or similar the outcome could possibly be much worse. The 223 case is actually .372-.373" so you are going down close to 70 thou as well as cutting the extractor groove deeper as well.

On a case like the lapua 220 russian that most 6mm ppc cases are made on, the web area of the case is smaller compaired to most other cases so you are basicly weakening this are with the removal of a considerable amount of material therefore greatly increasing the chance of case failure possibly even with a standard loading.

From an action point of view most actions would handle it as they are often the same action size for many calibres. But the odd action that is made only for .373 size cases may not handle the extra pressure placed on it by a case with a larger bolt thrust area. So once again the uninformed reader may make the mistake of applying this to the wrong action.

So basicly mate it comes down to a safety reason. It s best to play with things that dont have a better than average chance of kill or wounding you.
cheers,
Shane