.17 remington

hideous · Post by **hideous** » Wed Dec 07, 2011 10:13 pm

.17 remington question

Any here use this calibre ? Seems to be plenty of crusty old old BDL's for sale but all i have seen have had poor throats.

Does anyone here run a new .17 remington or .17 remington fireball that can compare it to the old .223 ?

Cheers

Mulga · Post by **Mulga** » Thu Dec 08, 2011 6:13 am

I have a sweet shooting Sako A1/L461 sporter. I have mine shooting very well with reduced loads @ ~ 3700fps. Neat little cartridge.

foxhunter223 · Post by **foxhunter223** » Thu Dec 08, 2011 9:19 pm

Same as Mulga.
Pete

cam_mackps2 · Post by **cam_mackps2** » Thu Dec 08, 2011 9:36 pm

I too have a sako L461.
I am running reduced loads using trailboss.
My only gripe with the 17rem is the brass. The batch i have is not up to par, the shoulders on a 10% have small wrinkles (not cracks) and one split the neck on second fire (with TB load).
I am considering turning it into 17FB or 20VT but need more range time with the current barrel to make up my mind.

Mulga · Post by **Mulga** » Fri Dec 09, 2011 5:47 am

Yeh the new Remington brass is crappy and you have to sort through it. I ended up buying 3 packets for $25 each reduced from $115, thieving bastards. Have you seen that Nosler is now making ammo for the 17 remington, im not sure but possibly components too.

http://www.nosler.com/Bullets/Varmageddon.aspx

Also a good article on the 17 rem
http://www.coyotegods.com/pagepart15.html

Great resource for sub calibres
http://www.saubier.com/forum.html

BTW. I use AR2208 for my loads.

cam_mackps2 · Post by **cam_mackps2** » Fri Dec 09, 2011 9:00 am

I saw the varmageddon range and was a little surprised they didn't make a 17FB load too.
I wouldn't have thought it would be too difficult to source brass if they already have 221FB & 17Rem.
Whoever supplies them can form the little FB cases and can form a 17cal neck.
Another one i would have thought would make them a killing was a factory 20VT load.

So hopefully Nosler start selling the brass and more hopefully the brass is Norma made (or anything but Remington).

andrewk · Post by **andrewk** » Fri Dec 09, 2011 4:00 pm

I've had both the 17 rem and the fireball and although i didn't chony the remington the fireball is capable of 4000fps with 20gr bullets without pressure being an issue.

my opinion is the 17 remington is over bore, high pressure and fouls a lot quicker. I'd go with the fireball and a build off a sako L461 would be very nice indeed

hideous · Post by **hideous** » Fri Dec 09, 2011 5:30 pm

andrewk wrote:I'd go with the fireball and a build off a sako L461 would be very nice indeed

Ding ! now to find someone with a less than expensive action !

dhv · Post by **dhv** » Fri Dec 09, 2011 8:34 pm

L461 Sako here as well. 2nd hand but fun to have. Bugger all recoil. Watch the action.

Handload only. DO NOT PRICE FACTORY AMMO WITHOUT A HEART STARTER WITHIN EASY REACH 8~)

cam_mackps2 · Post by **cam_mackps2** » Fri Dec 09, 2011 8:59 pm

dhv wrote:Handload only. DO NOT PRICE FACTORY AMMO WITHOUT A HEART STARTER WITHIN EASY REACH 8~)

Hopefully the nosler's are more reasonably price.

hideous · Post by **hideous** » Fri Dec 09, 2011 9:24 pm

found 2 sako's in .222 - just need to negotiate a price.

Wondering whether i should just get pac-nor barrel ( group buy ) and a .17 fireball reamer.

I have a shot out .223 old remington available - but i prefer the sako L461 action.

Alternative of course is to rebarrel the savage. ( it needs a new trigger and stock )

trevort · Post by **trevort** » Thu Dec 15, 2011 6:28 am

hideous wrote:
andrewk wrote:I'd go with the fireball and a build off a sako L461 would be very nice indeed
Ding ! now to find someone with a less than expensive action !

works very well in a CZ527 222 donor

hideous · Post by **hideous** » Thu Dec 15, 2011 8:13 am

trevort wrote:works very well in a CZ527 222 donor

problem is the high costs of these cheap CZ rifles. Something that should be $500 new is $850 here.
I did notice the $1500 527 in UG in 300whisper.

Both my cheap sako <$800 rifles fell through so i am looking hard at affordable actions.

andrewk · Post by **andrewk** » Thu Dec 15, 2011 8:35 am

Tikka M55 maybe

hideous · Post by **hideous** » Thu Dec 15, 2011 8:54 am

since most people have a unrealistic value on their old rifles its going to be easier to buy a .17 fireball in a base remington model for $925 new with rings.

we know the older handfitted Finnish actions are better but if I hand a new $900 rifle to a gunsmith and I spend $400 on it - i have a new rifle in better steel and a handfinished by a smith.

Since most .17's i have seen so far have throat wear -they are 1970's vintage - it makes no sense to spend $1200 on an old rifle just to have it rebarrelled, giving it a $1800 price tag.

I am seriously considering buying a $925 remington and spending the money on a good gunsmith to take off the rough edges.
More aftermarket stocks, sights, accessories for a remington anyway.
Looking at most local AU "Fly shooter" gunsmiths - most would welcome the dollars.

AusVarmint

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