Do you weigh every load.???
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glenn asher
I've been using my Uniflow for 25 years or so, and technique is EVERYTHING with one, El Toad Man is correct. I can drop within .1 with most any powder, stick or ball (ball is usually dead on). That's usually close enough. It did take some time to get the technique down, but it's plenty good enough for most of my needs, especially when loading a thousand or so loads for prairie dogs. Lots of prairie doggers use a Dillon progressive press, with no loss in accuracy.
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Drew Jaeger
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crowbuster
Hello fellow reloaders, I'm new to the site and must say I'm impressed by the sensible & intelligent discussion I have seen.
I reckon that those of us that reload may have started out to save money, but soon become obsessed with the quest for accuracy, efficiency and the satisfaction gained from good load development. Why else would we spend a fortune on expensive reloading gear but to create the best possible ammunition for that particular gun.
That said, I have a great little RCBS electronic scale and I like to throw a charge from my RCBS thrower just under the required amount & trickle it up to the exact weight for every cartridge I reload. Yes it's time consuming, but if you are a perfectionist as I suspect most of you are, and you enjoy the whole reloading thingy, then it's not a chore.
It pays dividends at the target (live or otherwise), & if you miss you can only blame yourself not the equipment. As an aside for those that haven't read it, I think the best reloading manual out there is Nick Harveys. The man is a legend & has forgotten more than most of us will ever learn.
I reckon that those of us that reload may have started out to save money, but soon become obsessed with the quest for accuracy, efficiency and the satisfaction gained from good load development. Why else would we spend a fortune on expensive reloading gear but to create the best possible ammunition for that particular gun.
That said, I have a great little RCBS electronic scale and I like to throw a charge from my RCBS thrower just under the required amount & trickle it up to the exact weight for every cartridge I reload. Yes it's time consuming, but if you are a perfectionist as I suspect most of you are, and you enjoy the whole reloading thingy, then it's not a chore.
It pays dividends at the target (live or otherwise), & if you miss you can only blame yourself not the equipment. As an aside for those that haven't read it, I think the best reloading manual out there is Nick Harveys. The man is a legend & has forgotten more than most of us will ever learn.
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woob614271
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Ned Kelly
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G'Day All,
It all depends on what level of accuracy you are prepared to accept at the longest range you will shoot at. If the level of accuracy is not acceptable, then you had better weigh them to controll that variable. But remember, when dumping straight from the measure you are measuring powder by VOLUME not WEIGHT
Also considering the whole accuracy thing, any difference in powder weight will cause vertical at longer ranges, and may cause variations in the vibration characteristics of your rifle and barrel which may increase the group sizes. Weighing each load means the vibrations should become more consistent and allow tighter grouping when you are working up a load.
For long range (basically anything past 300yds) I weigh every charge for my .223 F class. to reduce the vertical in the grouping
For my BR rifle straight from the measure to the case. I use a Harrel powder thrower and it is capable (with practice) of getting +/- 0.15gns which is good enough for anything less than 200yds. However I do think a quality built custom rifle like a BR rifle will shoot just about anything well. They are just so easy to tune.
A Redding BR-30 measure is IMHO just as good as a Harrel.
The level of accuracy of weight dumping powder, basically depends on the powder granule size. If it is a fine small sized granule, there is no real need to weigh evey charge as it meters very well. i.e. BM1, BM2, AR2206, W748 etc.
Larger granuled powders such as AR2207, AR2208, AR2209, AR2213SC etc which don't meter well or can hang up inside the measure which really messes with your ability to throw accurately, so I weigh them all.
So you need to find out the effect on your rifles accuracy due to this volume/weight variable and see if you can live with the differences.
hope this helps,
Cheerio Ned
It all depends on what level of accuracy you are prepared to accept at the longest range you will shoot at. If the level of accuracy is not acceptable, then you had better weigh them to controll that variable. But remember, when dumping straight from the measure you are measuring powder by VOLUME not WEIGHT
Also considering the whole accuracy thing, any difference in powder weight will cause vertical at longer ranges, and may cause variations in the vibration characteristics of your rifle and barrel which may increase the group sizes. Weighing each load means the vibrations should become more consistent and allow tighter grouping when you are working up a load.
For long range (basically anything past 300yds) I weigh every charge for my .223 F class. to reduce the vertical in the grouping
For my BR rifle straight from the measure to the case. I use a Harrel powder thrower and it is capable (with practice) of getting +/- 0.15gns which is good enough for anything less than 200yds. However I do think a quality built custom rifle like a BR rifle will shoot just about anything well. They are just so easy to tune.
A Redding BR-30 measure is IMHO just as good as a Harrel.
The level of accuracy of weight dumping powder, basically depends on the powder granule size. If it is a fine small sized granule, there is no real need to weigh evey charge as it meters very well. i.e. BM1, BM2, AR2206, W748 etc.
Larger granuled powders such as AR2207, AR2208, AR2209, AR2213SC etc which don't meter well or can hang up inside the measure which really messes with your ability to throw accurately, so I weigh them all.
So you need to find out the effect on your rifles accuracy due to this volume/weight variable and see if you can live with the differences.
hope this helps,
Cheerio Ned