In the good old days

[kjd]

Agricultural impacts weren't the only consideration. Our native flora and fauna paid a huge price for these rabbit plagues.

We can all be nostalgic for the way things once were but these little bastards did more harm than good.

It sucks you lost your livelihood mate but it happens. I was once a projectionist, that job barely (if at all) exists anymore too.

[trevort]

Take a trip to Arid Recovery with Dr G and then talk about rabbits.


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[bigfellascott]

Flat stacked in the bed of the truck, no refrigerated transport in those days, billions of rabbits transported from western NSW and other states to the capital cities where the big processing facilities were located, thousands of blokes employed both casual and full time trapping, shooting, transporting, skinning, packing etc, dunno how many billions of dollars the industry generated, but shes all gorn now, because of some, in my opinion, ill perceived damage to agriculture.

Your right I reckon Camel, in the old days there were a serious problem because of the large numbers that were about back then but these days they don't do anywhere near as much damage as a rule, I'm sure there are a few spots where they may be in larger numbers than what we see these days but as a rule the numbers are well controlled and so is the potential for damage from them.

[Camel]

Take a trip to Arid Recovery with Dr G and then talk about rabbits.


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Don't know how you can equate that controlled experimental environment to the rest of the continent, not a good comparison mate, it is experimental and very far from the normal.

[trevort]

It is normal. It has pests excluded it is how the bush used to be. Outside the fence is how we have allowed it to become. That's the point


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[Camel]

Normal ? What is normal and why is it so important to try vainly to go back to what it was before the white fellas got here, a mere pipe dream, the world is still evolving, and the migration of people, the dying out of species and taking over of other species has been going on for millennium and is going to continue for more millenniums, just got to learn that the evolution switch hasn't been turned off. There isn't any going back.

[The Raven]

FFS why did diesel just go up by 11c/L?

I bought fuel out in the country this afternoon for $1.27 and get back into Melbourne to find it's $1.38!

I remember filling up the old Datsun 120Y for 0.18c per litre......change from $15 (eg. cost less that $12 to fill).

[Camel]

FFS why did diesel just go up by 11c/L?

I bought fuel out in the country this afternoon for $1.27 and get back into Melbourne to find it's $1.38!

I remember filling up the old Datsun 120Y for 0.18c per litre......change from $15 (eg. cost less that $12 to fill).

Pfffft, I remember getting fuel in Queanbeyan in 1978 for about 10 or 11 Cpl, over the border in Canberra it was a couple or three Cpl more. Went shooting one night from Queanbeyan, drove to a property on the other side of Canberra on the back road to Wee Jasper, I put 2 bucks in the tank before I left, drove out there, drove the kingswood around the paddock spotlighting for most of the night, then drove back and still had fuel left in the tank. But then in those days a packet of champion baccy was about 25 cents per 50gm, matches and papers were 2 cents each.

[The Raven]

FFS why did diesel just go up by 11c/L?

I bought fuel out in the country this afternoon for $1.27 and get back into Melbourne to find it's $1.38!

I remember filling up the old Datsun 120Y for 0.18c per litre......change from $15 (eg. cost less that $12 to fill).

Pfffft, I remember getting fuel in Queanbeyan in 1978 for about 10 or 11 Cpl, over the border in Canberra it was a couple or three Cpl more. Went shooting one night from Queanbeyan, drove to a property on the other side of Canberra on the back road to Wee Jasper, I put 2 bucks in the tank before I left, drove out there, drove the kingswood around the paddock spotlighting for most of the night, then drove back and still had fuel left in the tank. But then in those days a packet of champion baccy was about 25 cents per 50gm, matches and papers were 2 cents each.

Make the fuel in Canberra so expensive that no-one can afford to leave....it's not like anyone who willingly lives there should be allowed to leave anyhow For what it's worth, I lived in Canberra unwillingly once.

My original point (or venting) was that no one blinks when fuel prices change 10% in a single day without any justification for doing so. Why this pricing occurs appears to be a mystery to the ACCC enquiries, but a bleedingly obvious to everyone outside of the ACCC and refiners.

[B4408]

FFS why did diesel just go up by 11c/L?

I bought fuel out in the country this afternoon for $1.27 and get back into Melbourne to find it's $1.38!

I remember filling up the old Datsun 120Y for 0.18c per litre......change from $15 (eg. cost less that $12 to fill).

Things must be slow in Melbourne happened here mid January. and still up.

Bruce

[kickinback]

FFS why did diesel just go up by 11c/L?

I bought fuel out in the country this afternoon for $1.27 and get back into Melbourne to find it's $1.38!

I remember filling up the old Datsun 120Y for 0.18c per litre......change from $15 (eg. cost less that $12 to fill).

Things must be slow in Melbourne happened here mid January. and still up.

Bruce

And cold Bruce. Only 18* today.


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[pavlovaw]

The rabbit population couldn't be too high seeing as our own hat brand Akubra are having to import rabbit fur to stay afloat making hats. Most cockies carry on about a plague when they see 5 or 6 rabbits. But then anything that doesn't make them money they whinge about profusely whether they are rich or poor cockies. The richer they are the worse they whinge. The plague of the 50s and 60s has been that used and abused (similar to how Coward used the 96 Port Arthur massacre and every other politician since) to keep hitting a target animal that apart from isolated pockets keeps getting used as the escape goat. And these environmental people have created a far worse environmental time bomb for our native flora and fauna in the cane toad with which they can only keep making hollow oxygen wasting promises on ways to 'try' and control it. Same as ferral cats. These people only seem content though targetting the things that can make people a livelyhood. And don't even get me started on the stupid nonsense they keep bringing into the roo trade trying to bleed those shooters dry as well to dismantle that industry as well. As most people can probably see from this rant am very dissatisfied with the environmental taking of the easy route to make themselves look good. As for fuel pricing considering our fuel is supplied through Singapore and over half the price is absorbed in government tax I am not even going to vent on that one.

[Camel]

Hey Pav, the Akubra topic is an interesting one indeed. The Aussie tax payer is still paying transport for their rabbit skins that are coming in from over seas. When calisi crashed rabbit numbers the first time, they were going to shut up shop, but they received subsidies to bring in overseas skins paid for by gov't (we the tax payers) so they could keep operating, they still are today I am led to believe. The gov't of the day didn't want to be seen as the instigator for the demise of an Aussie icon like Akubra. The main reasons they prefer to use overseas skins is they are cheaper, even with the cost of international freight, than to buy them from Aussie sources, we used to throw hundreds and hundreds into the offal pit at the tip every week, because they wouldn't pay enough to even cover the costs involved in preparing rabbit skins to sell, let alone the cost of freighting them to the Akubra factory. Believe me, if there was money to be made out of rabbit skins, the processor that I shot/skinned for would have been in it, he probably would have had his mother stretching skins for him to save a dollar.

[The Raven]

FFS why did diesel just go up by 11c/L?

I bought fuel out in the country this afternoon for $1.27 and get back into Melbourne to find it's $1.38!

I remember filling up the old Datsun 120Y for 0.18c per litre......change from $15 (eg. cost less that $12 to fill).

Things must be slow in Melbourne happened here mid January. and still up.

Bruce

Melbourne prices are all over the place. Even last night I could buy diesel at $1.27 or $1.38 with no explanation as to why. In a week or two it'll be down to $1.12 again