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Winchester 9422 extraction issue
Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2020 5:48 pm
by Keachie
So my winchester lever action is having extraction issue where it won't pull out the spent round. But if put pressure on the the claw with my finger it pulls the round.
After reading a bit on how to pull the action apart the is ment to be 2 springs the run at a 90 degree angle to the base of the extractor claw and these can get tied up on each other reducing spring tension on the claw hence issue (if this is indeed the issue).
My question is should I have a crack at fault finding and repairing the issue or should I just take it to my LGS?
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Re: Winchester 9422 extraction issue
Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2020 6:58 pm
by The Raven
If you think you're handy enough on the tools it's worth a try. However, as soon as you strike any problems (particularly those involving forcing stuff) pack it all up and visit a gunsmith.
Hint: If you're pulling apart anything that may launch small springs, screws, and the like across the room then disassemble the part in a plastic bag. That will capture any errant parts and save a lot of floor searching and swearing.
PS. I am not a gunsmith
Re: Winchester 9422 extraction issue
Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2020 7:38 pm
by Keachie
sound like some words of experience there
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Re: Winchester 9422 extraction issue
Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2020 8:25 pm
by The Raven
Keachie wrote: sound like some words of experience there
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Yep, I launched a far few small parts around the house over the years.
Recently spent an hour looking for a carb needle in the grass outside. It LOOKED attached to the float but apparently it was designed to easily fall off when you least expected it.
Couldn’t find it with a magnet (it was ferrous) but finally found it 3ft from where I expected it to have fallen. Only took 45mins.
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Re: Winchester 9422 extraction issue
Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2020 8:50 pm
by Camel
I would first up try squirting WD40 or similar in to see if it is just gunk that needs washing out, and again maybe after its soaked for a while, give it a blast with compressed air, if the shit can get in, it can usually get out. Might just be a case of needing a good clean out. I have only pulled one 9422 apart, but it was years ago and cant remember any tricks now, know they are more difficult than Marlin lever guns.
Re: Winchester 9422 extraction issue
Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2020 9:08 pm
by The Raven
Camel wrote: ↑Sat Mar 14, 2020 8:50 pm
I would first up try squirting WD40 or similar in to see if it is just gunk that needs washing out, and again maybe after its soaked for a while, give it a blast with compressed air, if the shit can get in, it can usually get out. Might just be a case of needing a good clean out. I have only pulled one 9422 apart, but it was years ago and cant remember any tricks now, know they are more difficult than Marlin lever guns.
Good point. Flushing it out might be an easy fix. WD40 "High Performance Silicone" has a good reputation for rifle cleaning/lube.
Another option, that involves little expenditure, is to get an eBay ultrasonic cleaner (about $25 plus postage). Suitable cleaning liquid recipes are located somewhere on here.
I'm constant amazed at how well it works cleaning up gunked up parts. I used the ultrasonic a while ago to de-rust a bunch of drill bits that had been through a shed fire and subsequent fire hosing. It worked a lot quicker than when I tried to clean them up manually.
FFS why did the first video I look at on Youtube for 9422's take an hour and involve milling machines!!!
Hardly a quick fix for the average firearm owner.
Re: Winchester 9422 extraction issue
Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2020 6:53 am
by Keachie
Lol yeah I saw that one aswell.
Will try blasting it out first if nothing else at least I might be a bit less gunked up wen I pull it apart
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Re: Winchester 9422 extraction issue
Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2020 8:51 am
by Dunderi
Himself is currently sitting at the table, with pieces everywhere, muttering under his breath.
So far he's only pinged one cartridge across the room.
I'd say its going well.
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Re: Winchester 9422 extraction issue
Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2020 7:59 am
by Camel
I see he has the old model with the spark plug, newer ones use fuel injectors and electronic ignition
Good luck with it, make haste slowly.
Re: Winchester 9422 extraction issue
Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2020 8:22 am
by The Raven
Camel wrote: ↑Wed Mar 18, 2020 7:59 am
I see he has the old model with the spark plug, newer ones use fuel injectors and electronic ignition
Good luck with it, make haste slowly.
I noticed that as well...
All he needs now is a dremel and he can call himself a gunsmith.
Re: Winchester 9422 extraction issue
Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2020 9:54 am
by Dunderi
Aha!
It was hilarious really, couldn't find a flat blade long handle screwdriver for quids, so he used the stihl tool.
Immediately found 6 big screwdrivers
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Re: Winchester 9422 extraction issue
Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2020 11:39 am
by Camel
The Raven wrote: ↑Wed Mar 18, 2020 8:22 am
Camel wrote: ↑Wed Mar 18, 2020 7:59 am
I see he has the old model with the spark plug, newer ones use fuel injectors and electronic ignition
Good luck with it, make haste slowly.
I noticed that as well...
All he needs now is a dremel and he can call himself a gunsmith.
And a 4 pound club hammer for those delicate fitting little pieces.
Re: Winchester 9422 extraction issue
Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2020 7:14 pm
by Rabbitz
Camel wrote: ↑Wed Mar 18, 2020 11:39 am
And a 4 pound club hammer for those delicate fitting little pieces.
I see now where I've been going wrong all these years. Silly me using rawhide hammers and small pein hammers.
I should've listened to my Dad: "Don't hit harder, get a bigger hammer".
Re: Winchester 9422 extraction issue
Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2020 4:47 am
by Keachie
That is gold Rabbitz
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Re: Winchester 9422 extraction issue
Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2020 6:29 am
by trevort
My bolt action 22 fails to extract after about 100 rounds cause the waxy lube off the lead pills builds up and the cases stick. And then I clean it.
Do you use lead pills with waxy coating?
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