20 vt action choice

[Jmc]

Hi all just seeing what action choice would be good for 20vt build wanting to get new or near new action. Looking at tikka t3 howa 1500 herd the howa has problems extracting rugger m77 thanks

[Camel]

Personally I would look at other actions that are closer to the cartridge size, Sako L461 or 75, Zastava M85, CZ 527 (if you don't mind detachable magazines), maybe even a Browning A bolt, Brno fox Mod 2. The others are too long in my opinion for what its worth. Tikka T3, one action length right up to magnums, Hoowa are really a 308 size, as are the Rugers. The only one that I know of that you can buy just the action for is the Zastava M85, they are a bit ordinary, but with a little work do turn into a very nice action.

[Seddo]

I'm sure the sky wont fall down if you have to move the bolt an extra 1" to cycle it. Buy the action you like or is in your price range.

[Jacko9]

I'm sure the sky wont fall down if you have to move the bolt an extra 1" to cycle it. Buy the action you like or is in your price range.

Somewhat defeats the purpose of these small compact cartridges imo.

[DSD]

Depends on your definition of purpose, if you wish to send a 20 cal projectile at 204 speeds using less powder in a more efficient case then action length/size has no bearing but opinions are like arseholes everyone has 1

[Jacko9]

Depends on your definition of purpose, if you wish to send a 20 cal projectile at 204 speeds using less powder in a more efficient case then action length/size has no bearing but opinions are like arseholes everyone has 1

And why not utilise a shorter action? It allows you to get a longer barrel for a similar OAL. The t3 is the last action I would build a 20 vartarg on, it is so disproportionate to the case it isn't funny, its a shit design on a 223 even, which originally led to poor feeding, and I would prefer a scaled action to the cartridge, that's why I pissed mine off in favour of my current 527 which is a much better rifle.

[DSD]

I guess it would depend on what was available to you ay the time. My fireball is on a 22lr action so i could not really go much smaller, however action length still has zero to do with the purpose of that cartridge just its user friendliness.

[Flip]

My good mate's M77 Ruger feeds and ejects 20 Vartarg dummy rounds just fine and it's still a 223. Missed sent me 5 cases before the build took place so we could try the feeding and ejection abilities of the rifles before we took the plunge. It has turned out really well for us.
He had his built on the Zastava M85. Great rifle shooting really well.

By all reports including the smith that built his stay clear of the Howas. the new micro action may very well be a different story.

If I had not had the L461 pop up when it did then I was going to get an M85 as well or at a streach a CZ 527 just a bit Exy at the time.

Flip

[Tackleberry]

OK i'll say it get a rem 700 that is chambered for the 221fireball then

re barrel and then the choice of triggers and stocks is endless but then

maybe so will the job of getting to shoot .

suppose i will find out about that soon enough

[matang]

I would build on a cz 527 action. Still have one in 223 sitting in safe that I don't use but saving for a project one day. Had a very accurate tikka 223 that shot like stink. Loved the smooth a action but didn't like the plastic bits and the design for 223. Would buy another in 30/06 270 or 7mm remington or use action to build a target 300WM or like

[Camel]

OK i'll say it get a rem 700 that is chambered for the 221fireball then

re barrel and then the choice of triggers and stocks is endless but then

maybe so will the job of getting to shoot .

suppose i will find out about that soon enough

Doing a bit of reading on Saubier, its been mentioned a fair few times that if you use actions that are chambered for cartridges like 222, 223 to make Vartarg or either of the 17s on that case, they have ejection issues and have to get the ejector moved, something about the short case catching and dropping into the magazine well. The factory rifle in 221 and 17Fireball have the ejector in the correct place.

[Jmc]

What about a 0mark 44 ?

[Camel]

Single shot, and if you cant find one with a 222 head size bolt face, you will have to get one. Nothing wrong with a single shot, if that's what you want.

[MISSED]

Do a search here on 20 VT someone tried the Omark actions pretty much a failure apparently

[Brad Y]

Would be getting a better quality action than just a factory one. Get a pierce short action with 223 boltface. You will be able to get a repeater or single shot depending on what your after.