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Building a 20 PPC

Posted: Thu Feb 27, 2014 10:46 pm
by Vermingone
Can I receive some guidance please?
I've only ever had factory rifles and am interested in learning about building a custom rifle.
What components would one require for such a build ?
What is the process to achieve a finished rifle ?
Action obviously but what one ?
Barrel heavy varmint preferred what rate of twist/length for 32-40 grn projectiles ?
Dies etc ? Forming brass etc ?
Ideally this rifle for the exercise of the build would be benched of the back of my ute so weight wouldn't be an issue.

Re: Building a 20 PPC

Posted: Thu Feb 27, 2014 10:58 pm
by Glenn
Ok, first question, what is you budget?

Glenn

Re: Building a 20 PPC

Posted: Thu Feb 27, 2014 11:28 pm
by Vermingone
Let's say around $2k for the rifle and I'll sort out the other bits later.

Re: Building a 20 PPC

Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2014 12:13 am
by BP72
Prepare for budget creap, soon a stock will be included in other bits and pieces!

Re: Building a 20 PPC

Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2014 6:08 am
by adamjp
Vermingone wrote:Can I receive some guidance please?
I've only ever had factory rifles and am interested in learning about building a custom rifle.
What components would one require for such a build ?
What is the process to achieve a finished rifle ?
Action obviously but what one ?
Barrel heavy varmint preferred what rate of twist/length for 32-40 grn projectiles ?
Dies etc ? Forming brass etc ?
Ideally this rifle for the exercise of the build would be benched of the back of my ute so weight wouldn't be an issue.
The simple reply is...

A Howa short action, Remington 700 short action or even a Zastava m85 will be a reasonable basic action for your rifle. The Howa/Remington will need the boltface altered, but any competent gunsmith can do that.
You will need a good 20Cal barrel with the right twist - which seems to be 1:10 or thereabouts.
Finding the chambering reamer can be an issue, but there are a couple floating around and I am sure that members here can put you onto one.
The gunsmith will be able to hand you a functioning rifle at the end of their work. Expect this work to cost somewhere between 400 and 500 dollars to fit barrel and do boltface. Stockwork will be more.

Cases - Lapua 220 Russian brass, necked down and fired.
Dies - 6mm PPC Redding bushing neck die set with a suitable 20cal bushing.


From here different stocks, triggers and actions add serious $$$.

Re: Building a 20 PPC

Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2014 7:00 am
by Ol 55
You want something like this?
All the hard work is done.
Ol 55

Re: Building a 20 PPC

Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2014 9:42 am
by Puddles
Ooooo...nice Ol55!

Are you selling it?

Re: Building a 20 PPC

Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2014 9:56 am
by trevort
I could sell you a full custom 204.

But then I would be trying to buy Ol55s 20 ppc :wink:

Re: Building a 20 PPC

Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2014 10:01 am
by Ol 55
Puddles wrote:Ooooo...nice Ol55!

Are you selling it?
I am thinking very seriously about it,
comes with everything except the scope
has options as well 6mm PPC barrel dies for both
cals 100 formed 20 PPC cases etc choice of triggers.
Ol 55

Re: Building a 20 PPC

Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2014 10:25 am
by stinkitup
STOP it Gary!

Is this the same as you had at the range last year or was that a 17 and different rifle?

You could also do a savage/stevens with a PPC bolt head from PTG or the CZ 527 in 7.62x39, sell the barrel and get a 20 cal barrel this will have the bolt head and magazine already to work with it. I think Zastava also do a 7.62x39 rifle or action only.

A PPC based action with multiple barrels would be nice! Just like Gary's :D

Ryan

Re: Building a 20 PPC

Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2014 11:16 am
by Ol 55
Same one Ryan
You would wonder why I would sell such a shooter,
Just doesn't give me a fat, dunno why either.
I've got my 20 Tact shooting like stink and they are
very close in performance admittedly the PPC is a bit
faster and flatter but not much.
Ol 55

Re: Building a 20 PPC

Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2014 11:42 am
by stinkitup
Ol 55 wrote:Same one Ryan
You would wonder why I would sell such a shooter,
Just doesn't give me a fat, dunno why either.
I've got my 20 Tact shooting like stink and they are
very close in performance admittedly the PPC is a bit
faster and flatter but not much.
Ol 55
See I knew I could shoot :lol:

The PPC is a little more work brass forming and costs etc I would imagine.

Ryan

Re: Building a 20 PPC

Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2014 11:50 am
by Ol 55
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The PPC is a little more work brass forming and costs etc I would imagine.

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No just run it through the die and fire form, the fire forming load is very accurate way to good
not to splat things, the are no more expensive than any other Lapua brass
Gary

Building a 20 PPC

Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2014 1:00 pm
by Vermingone
So an action like this one http://m.usedguns.com.au/Product_Desc.aspx?Pid=19790
Would be what I should be looking for ?
Or a donor rifle like this http://m.usedguns.com.au/Product_Desc.aspx?Pid=29627

Re: Building a 20 PPC

Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2014 1:57 pm
by Camel
Vermingone wrote:So an action like this one http://m.usedguns.com.au/Product_Desc.aspx?Pid=19790
Would be what I should be looking for ?
Or a donor rifle like this http://m.usedguns.com.au/Product_Desc.aspx?Pid=29627

First one, no, its the long action that has everything from 243 to 30-06 length, the second one would be the go, be warned though, you will not like the factory stock, make good fire starter and are pretty ordinary in the fitting.

I spose if you are going to rebarrel you wouldn't use the stock anyway. Boyds make a stock for the M85 short action, but I have found that they are a little short in the fore end, I will be lengthening mine and probably widening it as well, just need to get my shit together and do something about it.