20 vt action choice

[Glenn]

I have a 17FB built on a Sako L461, it feeds ok, just!
I picked the Sako action because I did not like any of the the alternative factory actions.
The issue with the Fireball case is feeding and most don't do it well at all.
CZ's do but I don't like them.

If we could get Cooper Rifles here for a decent price there would be no problems at all!

My next one will be built with a single shot custom action.
I have 2 already and have never had any problem with a follow up shot.

If it was me and you wanted a repeater for a 20cal to run 32grs I would do a 20-222!
The feeding issue disappears and you can use the actions you mentioned.

Good luck.

Glenn

[Seddo]

I understand the issues with poor extraction in some actions. I have played with a few 6mmBR's in different actions with different results. The problem of the short case is it falls off the extractor when its inline with the lug slot in the action.

The Howa action has a sako style extractor so its not inline with the lugs and it extracts 6mmRB just fine. The winchester i played with (LA) very rarely extracted 6mmRB as the extractor is inline with the lugs. When i had a sako extractor fitted to the winchester it threw the cases a mile away. Given the 221 is a shortened 223 it would have simular issues to a 6mmBR as its a shotened 308.

I agree everyone has their own opinion, that's what i said by what you like and can afford. If you like an action and it doesn't work for you there is usually a fix for it, as i found out with the winchester.

[Tackleberry]

OK i'll say it get a rem 700 that is chambered for the 221fireball then

re barrel and then the choice of triggers and stocks is endless but then

maybe so will the job of getting to shoot .

suppose i will find out about that soon enough

Doing a bit of reading on Saubier, its been mentioned a fair few times that if you use actions that are chambered for cartridges like 222, 223 to make Vartarg or either of the 17s on that case, they have ejection issues and have to get the ejector moved, something about the short case catching and dropping into the magazine well. The factory rifle in 221 and 17Fireball have the ejector in the correct place.

my rem 223 does that and it's the best thing that's happened to it i haven't lost a piece of brass since

when i had a vssf II 204 i took the plunger out so it would do the same

[trevort]

If you want a CZ action buy a 222 donor. The magazine is shorter. Feeding is perfect for the little cases (mines a 17m4)

[Jmc]

Mabey tikka m55 or savage 110 ?

[Teepee]

Sorry to come in late on this but working nights so have just checked in.

I built my vt on the Kimber action and for the most part it feeds ok. Originally was a 204.

What I have found is you need to cycle the action quickly to get it to feed but....
I can usually load 4 into the magazine well without any probs. go to 5 and it binds.
So I stay with 4 and have found 90% of the time I don't need the second follow up shot.

If I was doing another short case build, I think I would have a look at the cz action. Obviously, any action that was originally 17 or 221 fireball would not have an issue, but there fairly scarce.

Just my opinion and it's worth what you paid for it!
Good to see there's another prospect looking to shoot a VT.

[trevort]

Mabey tikka m55 or savage 110 ?

don't you like the recommendations you are getting from blokes that have done it?

[Jmc]

Thanks for all the help everyone. I just putting out some actions that i have before i go and get a new action if i have to probably best to get a 20vt case and try my actions first?

[MISSED]

Makes sense
But just remember the case is 1.4 " or 36 mm long and a loaded round with a 32 gr Xmas projectile seated 10 thou off the lands in my Sako A1 is 1.889" or 41 mm long.
A 222 case is 41 mm or 1.70" and loaded with a 40 Xmas is 57.38 or 2.219"

A tikka M55 is still a big action for this little cartridge

[trevort]

use your M55 to build a 20-222.

[Camel]

use your M55 to build a 20-222.

[MISSED]

use your M55 to build a 20-222.

And the award for for Ms Sensible goes to Drum roll please ...... ......... ............ ................... ................TREVORT

[Teepee]

Sounds like very sensible advise.

But all jokes aside, if you want to build it on the tikka, then don't let anyone stop you.
Let us know how it goes and make your decisions around what you find out on this build for the next time. That's what I did, and I'm sure others have also done the same thing.
You've asked for opinions, that has been supplied, it's up to you now how YOU want to proceed.
Good luck with it.

[Tezza]

Personally I would look at other actions that are closer to the cartridge size, Sako L461 or 75, Zastava M85, CZ 527 (if you don't mind detachable magazines), maybe even a Browning A bolt, Brno fox Mod 2. The others are too long in my opinion for what its worth. Tikka T3, one action length right up to magnums, Hoowa are really a 308 size, as are the Rugers. The only one that I know of that you can buy just the action for is the Zastava M85, they are a bit ordinary, but with a little work do turn into a very nice action.

Howa is releasing a new micro action for the .223 cartridge family, could be another option.

[Jmc]

Hi the zastava m85 action looks good i can get just thr action were would i find a stock for it ?