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malcolm wrote:.............. 25 cal seems just about right for our thin skinned stuff...............(snip)...........
It will be perfect for this forum then!
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Camel wrote:
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Camel wrote:
Seddo wrote:The 6.5 Hill Imp uses a shortened 257AI FL die to knock the shoulders back.

Seddo, you are making this a little too easy, you are a bad man. :lol: :lol: :lol:

Trev, I did think of that, or something similar, but I think it will either be 25 Camel, or maybe the 25 AV Camel. :D Corny eh ?? :roll:
I was thinking that being short with squared shoulders and minimum neck would make it a 25 Gladstone.

Then I realised that the power will be lacking, so performance won't be as good as it could be, and it's not going to be to everybodies taste.

Perhaps calling it a 25 Corona is more appropriate? :wink:

Good points there Wayne, but Im not gunna name it after a bloody pommy.


and there is no way that Im gunna let Keith anywhere near it, so the Corona idea is out as well.
Better send me a PM with your postal address Camel........I got a little chrissie present to send you that I reckon will make you smile........
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Oh goodie, I like the sound of this. PM sent :D
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mn1863 wrote:Camel

I think Briel Jackson did something similar to what you are describing with the 25 Souper ai idea, it was in the early issues of guns and game. Can't remember what he called it though said he got 25/06 performance from a short action rifle.
He called it the 25 Humdinger. I have a copy of that G&G out in the shed.

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Branxhunter wrote:
mn1863 wrote:Camel

I think Briel Jackson did something similar to what you are describing with the 25 Souper ai idea, it was in the early issues of guns and game. Can't remember what he called it though said he got 25/06 performance from a short action rifle.
He called it the 25 Humdinger. I have a copy of that G&G out in the shed.

Marcus

Yeah I remember the name now, I will just have to change things a teeny weeny bit, then exaggerate the performance figures so its a bit better than his. :mrburns:
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Branxhunter wrote:
mn1863 wrote:Camel

I think Briel Jackson did something similar to what you are describing with the 25 Souper ai idea, it was in the early issues of guns and game. Can't remember what he called it though said he got 25/06 performance from a short action rifle.
He called it the 25 Humdinger. I have a copy of that G&G out in the shed.

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Thanks, saved me searching through my magazines in the shed.
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Camel wrote:He called it the 25 Humdinger. I have a copy of that G&G out in the shed.

Marcus


then exaggerate the performance figures so its a bit better than his. :mrburns:

Geez Camel, are you writing the ADI loading data now?
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Didn't Breil call his bush cat a 25 Humdinger.?good man.
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mick_762 wrote:
Camel wrote:He called it the 25 Humdinger. I have a copy of that G&G out in the shed.

Marcus


then exaggerate the performance figures so its a bit better than his. :mrburns:

Geez Camel, are you writing the ADI loading data now?

Ha ha ha, sorry mate that's not my style, I have the occasional popped primer with some of my test loads, don't think that will ever happen with the pale loads that ADI put in their books. :P
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Camel wrote:
mick_762 wrote:
Camel wrote:He called it the 25 Humdinger. I have a copy of that G&G out in the shed.

Marcus


then exaggerate the performance figures so its a bit better than his. :mrburns:

Geez Camel, are you writing the ADI loading data now?

Ha ha ha, sorry mate that's not my style, I have the occasional popped primer with some of my test loads, don't think that will ever happen with the pale loads that ADI put in their books. :P
So if I get this right, the first stages of forming brass for the 25 Camel are;

1. Place the deprimed cartridge onto a piece of 1/4" steel rod with the end of the rod turned flat. The rod is held vertically in a vice.

2. Hit the cartridge on the base with a 24oz hammer to tighten the primer pocket.

3. Proceed as normal........

Yeah? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Here are the key parts of the G&G Humdinger article (from issue No.1):
G&G - 250 Humdinger p1.JPG
G&G - 250 Humdinger - case forming.JPG
G&G - 250 Humdinger - tested loads.JPG
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Now that is one very interesting round.
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G'day and thanks Marcus. Yeah I decided to go through my lot of G&G the other day to try and find the article, opened the very first edition and bingo, there it was.

I noticed he started using 243 brass and for some ungodly reason put a 45 degree shoulder on it :roll: , that would make feeding a real issue.

Mine will be so much betterer than his as I wont be using 243 brass, :twisted: but 308, cause everyone knows that there is nothing good about 243, plus, I still have a half a bucket of ADI brass.

Then of course, the name will make mine so much cooler, efficient, accurate, easy to form, etc, etc :twisted: :lol: :lol:
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Re: 25 Camel

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Would be interesting to see how R-17 would go in it - it seems to be the "go to" powder for many similar sized and not so similar cartridges.
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