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Brad Y · Post by **Brad Y** » Fri Dec 28, 2007 12:17 am

Tried on another international shooting forum but didnt get a reply the jumped out and smacked me in the face.

Is the CT ballistic silver tip a varmint bullet or a hunting bullet? Got a mate who shoots pigs with them (not talking huge boars) Would the 55gr silvertips be any different to a 55gr vmax in penetration and expansion?

HiWall · Post by **HiWall** » Fri Dec 28, 2007 7:12 am

Just like the Nosler Ballistic Tip, the CT bullet can be either, depending on calibre and bullet weight. Pretty sure that all of the .22 calibre bullets are varmint types. Winchester website has an ammunition list which lists all the bullets and the 'CXP type' of ammunition.

http://www.winchester.com/products/cata ... px?type=13

There is a link to the CXP Guide on the page.

Rick1970 · Post by **Rick1970** » Fri Dec 28, 2007 9:43 am

Nosler BT's are varmint (or so it said on the box), if they preform like V-Max's on goats i wouldn't bother even trying them on pigs. V-max's are pretty good on bunnies tho, as long as you dont want a fed of rabbit that dosn't look like it came from a chineese takaway

Post by **kjd** » Fri Dec 28, 2007 11:15 am

Rick1970 wrote:Nosler BT's are varmint (or so it said on the box), if they preform like V-Max's on goats i wouldn't bother even trying them on pigs. V-max's are pretty good on bunnies tho, as long as you dont want a fed of rabbit that dosn't look like it came from a chineese takaway

Thats not correct mate Nosler BT's come in both varmint and hunting types

Varmint types go from .20 cal to .25 cal

Hunting BT types go from 6mm to 8mm so there is some substantial cross over! the 20 or 22 cal does not have any hunting Ballistic tips.

Mevo2230 · Post by **Mevo2230** » Fri Dec 28, 2007 11:23 am

What a pain in the arse.

At least Hornady have V-Max and SST branded projectiles so you know which type of polymer tipped bullets you are getting.

Rick1970 · Post by **Rick1970** » Fri Dec 28, 2007 11:31 am

kjd wrote:
Rick1970 wrote:Nosler BT's are varmint (or so it said on the box), if they preform like V-Max's on goats i wouldn't bother even trying them on pigs. V-max's are pretty good on bunnies tho, as long as you dont want a fed of rabbit that dosn't look like it came from a chineese takaway

Thats not correct mate Nosler BT's come in both varmint and hunting types

Varmint types go from .20 cal to .25 cal

Hunting BT types go from 6mm to 8mm so there is some substantial cross over! the 20 or 22 cal does not have any hunting Ballistic tips.

When he was talking 55gr, just assumed he was using 22cal

HiWall · Post by **HiWall** » Fri Dec 28, 2007 11:46 am

Not difficult at all - the info is all on the web and comprehensively covered in the Nosler reloading manual.

Model70 · Post by **Model70** » Fri Dec 28, 2007 1:42 pm

Mate its not a stupid question if you dont know the answer.

Brad Y · Post by **Brad Y** » Fri Dec 28, 2007 3:44 pm

sorry guys yep 22 cal 55gr. The 55gr vmax dont really blow up on the bunnies they tend to make an enlarged exit hole. If there was another bunny behind the one I shot, it would be dead too. If I was shooting lighter bullets I would expect them to blow up, but I made these loads heavier to carry oomph at longer ranges so i reckon they penetrate a bit more than the lighter ones. My TNT's are blowing up a tad more but I will use the hornady stuff up before staying with the cheaper TNT bullets.

I might just get some highland or remington soft points to use for pigs. Im not talking big buggers, nothing over 60kg i reckon. Those bloody barnes tsx are over a dollar a pop here so Im not going to even bother with them.

jb747 · Post by **jb747** » Sat Dec 29, 2007 11:35 am

Brad Y wrote:sorry guys yep 22 cal 55gr. The 55gr vmax dont really blow up on the bunnies they tend to make an enlarged exit hole. If there was another bunny behind the one I shot, it would be dead too.

Well, it may be just semantics, as the Vmax do make a huge exit hole, but, they have, nevertheless, blown up. On many occasions I've tried for two rabbits from one shot, and whilst it does happen sometimes, very often the second rabbit is killed by either part of a bullet, or part of his mate.

Rick1970 · Post by **Rick1970** » Sat Dec 29, 2007 12:43 pm

Agree with jb747 that v-max's do blow up. Tried for two rabbits with one shot yesterday morning with the 17Rem shooting 25gr v-max's. Waited till both bunnys were in line, hit the 1st one mid chest and the second one bolted. On inspection the hit rabbit was split open, bent in half and nearly all its chest/gut contents were spread beside it.
Had very similar results with the 223 as well

Model70 · Post by **Model70** » Sat Dec 29, 2007 1:03 pm

Check my post "Finally" in the varminting stories forum, 55gn V max out of a 22-250, not sure about killing a bunny directly behind it, for that you'd want a hunting bullet, the nosler SHOTS would be excellent for that.

Brad Y · Post by **Brad Y** » Sat Dec 29, 2007 2:40 pm

hmm, I was thining blowing up was more like the TNT. I can see now that a heap of fragmented bullet could easily make a large exit hole.

Ive had a good look for hunting bullets and I might go with the soft point sierra 55gr game king instead for pigs and goats

Rick1970 · Post by **Rick1970** » Sat Dec 29, 2007 3:06 pm

Brad Y wrote:hmm, I was thining blowing up was more like the TNT. I can see now that a heap of fragmented bullet could easily make a large exit hole.

Ive had a good look for hunting bullets and I might go with the soft point sierra 55gr game king instead for pigs and goats

Used the 55gr GameKing on goats and found these were better than 55gr Nosler BT's with a well placed shot

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