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2208 in the 270 wsm

Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2015 9:40 pm
by Teepee
Hi all,
Bought myself a Christmas presi from a guy on another site. The rifle came with some projectiles and loading dies but no info. so..........
Is Anyone loading 2208 in the 270wsm?
And
If so would you mind sharing your info.

I see that the 2208 is listed in the ADI site in both the 270wsm And the 7mmwsm however it's not mentioned after 135gr projectile in the 7mm.
As the cases are nearly identical, I would think I could use it but thought you guys would be able to put me straight.
I'm looking to use it on 140 gr vmax, which I got with the rifle.
Also have some 110gr barnesttsx but was thinking of only using the larger projectiles at this stage.

Re: 2208 in the 270 wsm

Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2015 9:43 pm
by justjeff
T,

2208 is probably too fast burning for this cartridge. With 140gr I would be looking at 2213sc or reloader 22.

Jeff

Re: 2208 in the 270 wsm

Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2015 10:06 pm
by Teepee
Can't get rl22
Didn't try for 2213sc, could have got 2209 but want to try and stick with 2208 as I use that in other cartridges.
But can someone explain how the 7 mm uses it, as it is listed on the adi website, and it is only .007 larger than the .270, but can't be used in the 270. And is used right up to 168gr projies as well in the 7mm.
I can't see why I couldn't use it, as the case capacity would be similar between the two of them.
What am I seeing that is wrong?
The adi site also lists 2206h upto 168gr projies in the 7mm, which is faster than the 2208, which I also have on hand btw. But it is only listed up to 100 gr projies in the 270wsm.
Confused!!

Re: 2208 in the 270 wsm

Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2015 11:09 pm
by WARDY91
Teepee can you get reloader 25 n550 or 2213sc like Jeff suggested. I would be hesitant on using 2206h or 2208 in those cases.

Re: 2208 in the 270 wsm

Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2015 5:37 am
by kickinback
We run 2209 in our 300wsm's with great results. Haven't got the book I front of me so can't say about the 270.

I am the same as you tho, all my stuff runs on the one powder. 2209. I don't like reloader. Loaded and tested in Melbourne it's good. Take it somewhere hot and it causes me pressure issues.

Re: 2208 in the 270 wsm

Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2015 6:19 pm
by Rinso
You can run fast powders like 2208 & 2206H both work well in the 308 for example.
The reason I would run 2213SC as Jeff suggested or similar is because that powder is designed to be used in a larger capacity case whilst 2208 is more suited to cases like the 6BR & 308
The faster powders will work but you may find them very inconsistent, other issues that could arise are misfires caused by all the powder not igniting due to air space in the case. The faster powders are meant to be used in smaller cases ie less powder burning faster still achieves velocity. In a large case you still need small amounts of powder creating large air space internally.
I had some success using 2213SC in the 6x47 Lapua with 105 grn bullets. I could get the same velocity as I did with 2209 but used an extra 3.5grns powder to do so, why bother lower pressure, longer barrel life and good load density.
I would say that you need to weigh the benefits of a single powder against the ability to get the most from the case.
Generally I always try to run the slowest powder which provides the required velocity, aim for 100% case load density and use the slowest twist rate possible in the barrel to stablise the bullet.

Re: 2208 in the 270 wsm

Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2015 6:48 pm
by lowndsie
I used 2209 in my .270WSM and considered it a little too fast. 2208 is of course faster still.

I can understand wanting to use one powder for everything and I used to do it myself. Now I just figure I might as well feed a quality rifle what it deserves and pick the best feed for the job at hand. :)

I've had good success in the past with Re-22.

Re: 2208 in the 270 wsm

Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2015 6:13 am
by Teepee
Thanks guys for your insight
All valid reasons why I shouldn't use 2208
Looks like I will have to try and find some 2209/2213sc or RL22
By all accounts, it's getting pretty hard to find.
Anyone in vic who's got any sitting around doing nothing they don't want, let me know.
Or if you know of a LGS that might have some.
I will probably be heading up to Albury at the end of the month, so might give Elks a try.

Re: 2208 in the 270 wsm

Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2015 6:16 am
by mick_762
Last time I was in Elks (early Dec) they had 2213SC and RL22 in stock - not sure now though.
Keith also had it in stock at Abela's in Melbourne (not much help if your only coming down this far though)

Mick

Re: 2208 in the 270 wsm

Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2015 9:12 am
by kickinback
mick_762 wrote:Last time I was in Elks (early Dec) they had 2213SC and RL22 in stock - not sure now though.
Keith also had it in stock at Abela's in Melbourne (not much help if your only coming down this far though)

Mick
None left at Abelas Melbourne as of yesterday. Space Cadet got some from Shepparton yesterday.

Re: 2208 in the 270 wsm

Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2015 4:08 pm
by Branxhunter
Teepee wrote:Thanks guys for your insight
All valid reasons why I shouldn't use 2208
Looks like I will have to try and find some 2209/2213sc or RL22
By all accounts, it's getting pretty hard to find.
Anyone in vic who's got any sitting around doing nothing they don't want, let me know.
Or if you know of a LGS that might have some.
I will probably be heading up to Albury at the end of the month, so might give Elks a try.
Teepee,

If I get a chance I will check if Sportpower in Hamilton have any of the powders you are after. My understanding is that Sportspower works in with Lardners in Ararat.

So, what is the set up you purchased?

Marcus

Re: 2208 in the 270 wsm

Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2015 9:24 pm
by Teepee
Hi Marcus,

Not a set up as such, just a good deal (I thought at the time) on a slightly used Sako A7 which a guy had on AHN.
Looked good in the pics, however pics aren't all there cracked up to be. Had a few marks which weren't disclosed. Old saying- buyer beware. Anyway, Did come with dies and projectiles, as stated earlier.
Anyway, for what I want it for, it will be fine. The idea is/was, get the second larger bore for the young fella to use and we can go and try and find a four legged critter out in the bush somewhere.
Work in progress, the young fellas keen but still need to get these loads worked out.

Re: 2208 in the 270 wsm

Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2015 11:56 am
by adamjp
For cartridges of that bore/capacity ratio I have skipped 2213SC and gone direct to AR2217. Burns cooler, cleaner and delivers the velocity.

Re: 2208 in the 270 wsm

Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2015 10:05 pm
by Teepee
Thanks adamjp
Appreciate your knowledge and input.

Re: 2208 in the 270 wsm

Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2015 6:09 pm
by Teepee
An update for those who offered to find powder for me.

Was in Ballarat yesterday and managed to get some 2209
So next step is giving that a go. I have a few days off, so will see what I can come up with.
Thanks again everybody for your input and offers.