roo's and red mist

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roo's and red mist

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I just thought I'd share something from my most recent trip away on the roos (my second last!). I've only used nosler shots during the six years I've been shooting professionly, but my mate who is taking over my roo run loaded up some nosler "ballistic" tips, I think that's what they are called anyway.

Most of the time I'm doing the shooting, and as such it's a little hard to see the "red mist" sometimes. This trip he did most of the shooting and I got to see some very impressive results with various ammo types. All were 55 grain projectiles.

- Remington factory PSP seemed to punch straight through the roo's head, leaving only a small hole.

- PMC factory ammo seems to be loaded faster then our reloads, and seemed to have fairly good results, although most heads were still intact.

- The reloads are running over 25 gr of 2206 (.223) and with nosler shots were once again impressive, a fair bit of damage and quite often blew large junks of head apart.

- By far the most impressive were the "ballistic" tips, completely dismantled heads, red mist about 6 foot in the air, the most impressive results I've seen! I've no idea how much the cost him compared to the relatively cheap shots (around 15 cents/proj) but they were all the local had and we needed some then. Thought some of you might be interested.
Cheers Ross
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Post by lowndsie »

Ive used nosler ballistic tips for awhile in the 223 and I cant fault them (other than their price). Unfortunately the 223 is now used as my backup rifle for roo's so it's loaded with the much cheaper 55gr nosler shots.

But dam they used to make a mess of a bunny!!!
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Are you getting any penetration problems with ballistic tips? Have you tried FMJ on strictly headshots, if so were they as reliable in killing power as the expanding B-tips? ...Walt
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Our laws down here state that we must use either hollow points or soft point projectiles for the humane destruction of roo's. In other words, they must be of expanding construction.
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Don't think fmj would be a good idea, even some brands of hollow points punch straight threw.
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The reason I was curious was because I have had some problems with the V-Max's splashing on coyote, especially if hit in the shoulder. My favorite calling rifle is a 1950's Remington 700 in 222 Remington. When using the Sierra 52 HPBT it was usually bang, flop. I tried some 50 grain Hornady V-Max's at about 3100 fps and had some splash's and had to track the wounded coyote. The shots are usually less than 75 yards.

I was surprised and glad to see the good results you were getting at higher velocity's with these bullets. I may try the 40 grainer V-Max at max velocity.

I really enjoy your site. It's interesting to see different ideas and perspectives on different reloading and hunting techniques.
I hope to learn a lot.
Good hunting...Walt
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Interesting -my question is a bit like saddlemakers - I mostly do varmint So I use 50gr remmington accutips factory loads with ballistic tips which are explosive on rabbits.

I generally am quite happy to have roos around me personally but occasionaly a farm owner specifically asks me to tag a few during my travels. I was stunned a while ago when hitting a big grey in the head (essentially where the neck met the head ) from behind at 50m there was no obvious damage or exit wound at all. The roo of coursejust rotated its head and fell over but I was staggered by lack of exit - quite the opposite of what you are describing rooboy. I suspect the bullet splashed and severed the spinal column and did a lot of shock damage but may not even have penetrated the skull
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In my Tikka 223 I have used the 40 gr Vmax and the 50 gr BTs. I shoot primarily foxes out to 200m. Most shots are around 50m to 100m. I had much better results from the 50gr than the 40gr bullets. I then decided to try the PSP bullets in 55 gr from Highland.

Just from my experience all 3 bullets are accurate enough out to the 200m no problems. I just found the 55 PSP killed better. Then my preference would go to the 50 gr BT's. I don't like the 40s at all.

Dave
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