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Ned Kelly · Post by **Ned Kelly** » Sun Dec 23, 2007 10:44 am

G'Day Woob,
for SR BR i just buy custom bullets such as Elf's, get them moly coated and that's it.

Primer seating is by handtool such as lee auto prime or the custom ones like Sinclair's as they have good sensitive "feel", you can easily feel the primer stop moving and at this point you have supposedly achieved a gentle crush of the anvil and priming compound. All nicely in contact with the bottom of the pocket and each other, so all of the firing pin energy is spent on ignition, not pushing the cup futher in, and then the anvil and then ignition etc

Remember the pin protrudes about 0.050" and a 0.005" variation in primer seating depth is a 10% variation relative to the f/pins length. This is considered to be bad. So this is the main reason I clean the pockets with the uniformer to ensure consistent pocket depth and naturally the depth of the primer in relation to the firing pin for a very uniform ignition sequence.

I use wilson seaters with a micrometer top from sinclairs.....easily good enough and cheap enough too.

In LR shooting JR has covered the topic in detail somewhere in this forum I believe.

Hope this helps

Cheerio Ned

trevort · Post by **trevort** » Sun Dec 23, 2007 11:13 am

So Ned, i wont reload at the range yet, so how many rounds will I need? I have 100 220russian cases and was about to start the neck sizing up and turning.

Should I get another 100?

Ned Kelly · Post by **Ned Kelly** » Sun Dec 23, 2007 11:51 am

G'day Trev,
when I go to Portland, I'll use around 20-30 for practice on the friday, and I'd expect to use around 100 rounds per day including sighters. So 230-250 for a weekend. Or another way 50rds per yardage, 100 per class/day etc.

If you shoot the whole CF nationals you'd need 350 plus about another 150-200 for experimental for around 500rds. Thats a whole lot of preloading and neck turning

So you can see why most BR shooters have 20 rrrreeeeaaaaaalllyy good cases and learn to load at the range!

So if your keen, and shot local matches only, 100 should be enough for a class/day but if you want to travel and shoot 2-3 days or more, I'll show you how to reload during a match, its really simple!

Anyway, you simply must reload at the away matches.......you cannot reload at night because we go to the pub for meals and socialising! You wouldn't want to miss out on the fun

Cheerio Ned

stinkitup · Post by **stinkitup** » Mon Dec 24, 2007 7:20 am

Back to cleaning again

I have some old 222super brass that came when I bought my martini and its quite dirty etc would a tumbler clean them right up? don't really need a tumbler as don't go through enough brass so once its clean I can do the old wipe with a rag at the range trick. Anyway I guess just wandering if someone has before and after of a tumblers work as the brass looks good and mean I will have another 40 odd cases as the 222rimmed bertram brass ain't cheap

alpal · Post by **alpal** » Mon Dec 24, 2007 6:36 pm

Stinkitup, a tumbler cleaned my 35yo+ .243 norma brass up really well,
must admit I was surprised.(took about 10 hours though) However you can just use brasso if you only use a few rounds, just remember to wash off with warm soapy water afterwards to remove any residue.
Regards Alpal

paz · Post by **paz** » Tue Dec 25, 2007 9:35 am

Back when i was an apprentice (about 15 years or more ago) and didn't have a lot of spare cash myself and a mate made a couple of tumblers out of stuff we found.
We used 2 x bits of stainless sheet, 4 x rubber duck plucker fingers, 1 x exhaust fan motor and last but not least 1 x round jelly ring mould. Put em all together and you get a tumbler that i'm still using to this day

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Paz

trevort · Post by **trevort** » Tue Dec 25, 2007 10:29 pm

I use bushing dies without an expander ball normally. "tumbling" conjures up thoughts of brass bashing against brass and running the risk of denting mouths. I'm wrong arent i?

paz · Post by **paz** » Tue Dec 25, 2007 11:19 pm

trevort wrote: "tumbling" conjures up thoughts of brass bashing against brass and running the risk of denting mouths. I'm wrong arent i?

Tumbling is not so much as rotating the brass but more like gently vibrating it. Never had a problem with damaged cases in mine and it uses an aluminum tub.

Paz

tikka · Post by **tikka** » Wed Dec 26, 2007 8:54 am

Tumblers are extremely gentle on cases and ive also never had one damaged, i also put a splash of brasso in with the cases and media and they come out looking good.
Although that pic of those hand cleaned cases looked bloody good too, i use that impregnated polish cloth from the tin on vehicle chrome and it looks and works great too.

tikka · Post by **tikka** » Wed Dec 26, 2007 9:03 am

paz wrote:Back when i was an apprentice (about 15 years or more ago) and didn't have a lot of spare cash myself and a mate made a couple of tumblers out of stuff we found.
We used 2 x bits of stainless sheet, 4 x rubber duck plucker fingers, 1 x exhaust fan motor and last but not least 1 x round jelly ring mould. Put em all together and you get a tumbler that i'm still using to this day .

Paz

Hey Paz you wouldn't have a pic of that home made tumbler would ya mate? I'd love to see how it looks and was made. Sounds neat.

Cheers

Geoff

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