These little Indian myna birds keep eating my dogs food all the time.
I have heard stories that the bird-shot( i think it's no.10 shot or something like that) will scar the 22lr barrel although haven't heard a decent or legitimate reason behind it. Can anybody fill me in.
cheers
al
22lr birdshot
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Re: 22lr birdshot
Ive never herd of .22lr bird shot. I have only herd of rat shot.
I have used plenty of rat shot before. Never had any issues with it damaging my barrel, loss of accuracy. I think there is some kind of myth surrounding it causing problems. Mind you I wouldn't put it through a match barrel just to be sure. Love to see some real evidence though.
I wouldn't think rat shot is suitable for indian mynars except for very close range. I would think a .22Lr Z would be better or an air rifle.
I have used plenty of rat shot before. Never had any issues with it damaging my barrel, loss of accuracy. I think there is some kind of myth surrounding it causing problems. Mind you I wouldn't put it through a match barrel just to be sure. Love to see some real evidence though.
I wouldn't think rat shot is suitable for indian mynars except for very close range. I would think a .22Lr Z would be better or an air rifle.
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Re: 22lr birdshot
Ditto what Mulga said, I've used rat shot out of my Brno on the rats in the shed and still won a BR30 with it.Mulga wrote:Ive never herd of .22lr bird shot. I have only herd of rat shot.
I have used plenty of rat shot before. Never had any issues with it damaging my barrel, loss of accuracy. I think there is some kind of myth surrounding it causing problems. Mind you I wouldn't put it through a match barrel just to be sure. Love to see some real evidence though.
I wouldn't think rat shot is suitable for indian mynars except for very close range. I would think a .22Lr Z would be better or an air rifle.

One thing I have always wondered is if the shot actually gets a bit of spin happening as its going down the barrel????
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Re: 22lr birdshot
thanks for the replies gent's,
yep your right mulga, rat-shot(no.12) is what i was referring to.
I'll have to get within range as i don't want to use low velocity ammo because if i miss I'll put a round thru the shed.
thanks for the thumbs up knackers as this is my only 22lr and don't want to harm the barrel.
cheers
al
yep your right mulga, rat-shot(no.12) is what i was referring to.
I'll have to get within range as i don't want to use low velocity ammo because if i miss I'll put a round thru the shed.
thanks for the thumbs up knackers as this is my only 22lr and don't want to harm the barrel.
cheers
al
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Re: 22lr birdshot
Federal do call their 22lr shot round Birdshot although most manufactures list theirs as ratshotalex1 wrote:yep your right mulga, rat-shot(no.12) is what i was referring to.
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Re: 22lr birdshot
CCI make a blue plastic cap shell called shotshell.comes in 20 rnd packs,says its good for 100yrds.
i have heard that too much rat shot will damage the barrel but i cant confirm this.
CCI 22LR Shotshell
1/15 oz #12 shot [approximately 165 pellets]
non-corrosive primers
shoot an email to CCI and enquire as to any known damage caused from extended usage.
i do know this stuff will put a decent dent in cement
i have heard that too much rat shot will damage the barrel but i cant confirm this.
CCI 22LR Shotshell
1/15 oz #12 shot [approximately 165 pellets]
non-corrosive primers
shoot an email to CCI and enquire as to any known damage caused from extended usage.
i do know this stuff will put a decent dent in cement

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Re: 22lr birdshot
I actually did pattern tests at 3, 6, 9 and 12 metres with the ratshot, I'm sure I have the pictures of them on disc from before my PC blew up and I lost two years of photos, I'm have a look for them. From memory I would have hit a rat at all ranges, although I did miss a few of quicker moving buggers.
PS, they deck chooks and snakes too (snakes too close to the house) no worries at all.

PS, they deck chooks and snakes too (snakes too close to the house) no worries at all.

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Re: 22lr birdshot
G'Day Alex,
from memory when hunting sparrows, starlings and mynas around the dairy at Bacchus Marsh 25+ years ago I use to use the rat shot on sparrows and HV 22LR ammo on the others. I found the rat shot was only good to around 10-15yds tops on sparrows and I eventually bought a .177 HW80 air rifle to hit out to 30yds, but the mynas soon learnt to sod off when I was around or a rifle was bought out.
I firmly believe they would recognise me by myself and assume I was carrying a rifle quickly fly off. Naturally they knew no-one would be at the dairy when it wasn't milking time and shooting while milking the cows did nothing for maximum milk production! They always seem to have a scout looking out for the smallest of movement and always seemed to fly in pairs looking for a shooter in the shadows inside the dairy.
Are you able to use a 22lr? if not a mate of mine uses a high powered .22 air rifle in one of the leafy suburbs of Melbourne and he shoots from well inside the house. They dont seem to be able to see into the darkened house and naturally dont fear movement from within.
Also if shooting over bait (obviously your dog's food) it pays big dividends to shoot some test targets to precisely know where the bullet/pellet will strike for a clean kill and leave the buggers there, the sometimes attract others down to feed and you can rack up another pest bird. it may even pay to give them another bait station out in the yard that can be easily sniped from inside. I use to remove the fly screen from my bedroom when studying HSC and have the air rifle on the bed and shoot at a bait station marked with a cricket stump. I could put a pellet within a 10mm (3/8") circle at 25yds and all pest birds were quicly knocked off. I was usuing a crossman pump up air rifle at that time.
hope this helps
Cheerio Ned
from memory when hunting sparrows, starlings and mynas around the dairy at Bacchus Marsh 25+ years ago I use to use the rat shot on sparrows and HV 22LR ammo on the others. I found the rat shot was only good to around 10-15yds tops on sparrows and I eventually bought a .177 HW80 air rifle to hit out to 30yds, but the mynas soon learnt to sod off when I was around or a rifle was bought out.
I firmly believe they would recognise me by myself and assume I was carrying a rifle quickly fly off. Naturally they knew no-one would be at the dairy when it wasn't milking time and shooting while milking the cows did nothing for maximum milk production! They always seem to have a scout looking out for the smallest of movement and always seemed to fly in pairs looking for a shooter in the shadows inside the dairy.
Are you able to use a 22lr? if not a mate of mine uses a high powered .22 air rifle in one of the leafy suburbs of Melbourne and he shoots from well inside the house. They dont seem to be able to see into the darkened house and naturally dont fear movement from within.
Also if shooting over bait (obviously your dog's food) it pays big dividends to shoot some test targets to precisely know where the bullet/pellet will strike for a clean kill and leave the buggers there, the sometimes attract others down to feed and you can rack up another pest bird. it may even pay to give them another bait station out in the yard that can be easily sniped from inside. I use to remove the fly screen from my bedroom when studying HSC and have the air rifle on the bed and shoot at a bait station marked with a cricket stump. I could put a pellet within a 10mm (3/8") circle at 25yds and all pest birds were quicly knocked off. I was usuing a crossman pump up air rifle at that time.
hope this helps
Cheerio Ned
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Re: 22lr birdshot
Lol Ned I used to leave the R9 on the bed while working from home alone for the same reason.
Yes they get to know what is danger very easily. I have shot most from just through the door way or wind etc. One of those semi-auto fx air rifles would be the ticket as they do like to linger when one comes around. And if you have plenty of Kookaburra's leave the bodies out they lovem!
There is also a mynah distress mp3 around which definitely works, especially when there is big numbers. I have often wondered about using rat shot on them, always thought some number 6's or in the 12 gauge could be entertaining.
Ryan
Yes they get to know what is danger very easily. I have shot most from just through the door way or wind etc. One of those semi-auto fx air rifles would be the ticket as they do like to linger when one comes around. And if you have plenty of Kookaburra's leave the bodies out they lovem!
There is also a mynah distress mp3 around which definitely works, especially when there is big numbers. I have often wondered about using rat shot on them, always thought some number 6's or in the 12 gauge could be entertaining.
Ryan
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Re: 22lr birdshot
That sparra shot sucks arse past about 15 feet I have found. The rifling spreads the dust shot all over the place. Just got no oomph. CB caps out of the .22 barely go "pop" and will go right through a mynah. If you kill a couple the rest will piss off and not return.