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Ultrafire WF-008 "recoil LED" torch

Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 12:58 pm
by fenring
I already have a couple of decent torches - a little 2XAA Fenix E20 (105 lumens) lives in the car and is a veteran of a dozen fox kills. My Eagletac T100C2 puts out a pretty tight 220 lumens and has been an excellent light for hunting - a tight spot with a decent spill to see where you are putting your feet. But I wanted something TIGHT.

So, this thing arrived yesterday and TBH it is an eye opener (no pun intended....) The Ultrafire WF-008 runs on a single 1860 Li ion rechargeable battery like many tactical torches do. It is electronically regulated to maintain a relatively steady brightness. None of this is too unusual - what is unusual is that it features what is known as "recoil" technology. This means that the LED is mounted at the front of the lens and it fires back at the reflector and then the light "recoils" out the end. It's just what lighthouses have been doing for centuries, and allows the makers of the torch to have a perfectly round and smooth surface to bounce the light back. The LED is mounted on a solid central spine or "pin" - in this case it's allegedly a CREE Q5 LED with a "white" hue - though in reality it has that familiar blue LED cast to it.

The torch itself is a beautiful little unit - a satin grey anodising with machining marks, or a sort of "arsenal" finish I guess you could call it - a bit like some military rifle barrels. The body is more or less 1" in diameter though it is scalloped out in various places. It's just under 15cm long and the head is just about 4cm. The reflector is smooth aluminium and the lens is plain glass. It's rated at 230 lumens - that might not sound much but it's running a "full choke" as as such puts a high lux reading on to a target.

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With a HMR box and my Eagletac for comparison.

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This torch has but one mode - flat out. The switch is the familiar forward clickie but unfortunately there is no momentary on/off feature so it clicks on then needs to be clicked off. I find the momentary feature very handy on my Eagletac - a quick blip of light to pinpoint a target's location as you sneak closer in darkness comes in handy.

This is the business end of the light with the LED pin visible. The wires for the LED run up the rear of that pin. (it's more like a fin than a pin) It has an "assault" style crown on it.

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Down to brass tacks, this light shoots a beam very like an aspheric lense light - you see the square shape of the LED and there's very little spill at short range. It's all about long throw and there is no focus adjustment.

This is the beam on a wall at 10 feet. The spot would be 20cm across at the most.

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This is the beam on the end of the hallway - about 13m away. At this point the beam is less than 1m wide - the hallway is 1.2m.

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At night, you really get some appreciation of the power of this little light - TBH it's comparable to my little 75W Lightforce 140 Lance. Last night I took it to an open space that attracts a lot of 'roos, rabbits and hares. I managed this pic of a bunny about 60m away. It's not ideal as I had to sit both the light and the camera on a post for want of anything else so he's not centered precisely in the beam. But you get the idea how intense the spot is. I would say it would have half as much range again as what the Eagletac has - though the lack of spill means it's not as good as an all around hunting torch.

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I have a mount set up for attaching this little lightsabre, and hopefully in the near future I'll be testing it out and getting some idea of real world runtimes in the field.

Re: Ultrafire WF-008 "recoil LED" torch

Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 1:35 pm
by badger74
Good write up. I have the same torch, but for some reason mine has three modes. Full, low, and strobe. I would much rather the single mode like yours.
I also bought a couple of different tape switches (or pad switches) for mounting to the stock, but Im yet to find one that fits properly. I've got one more on the way, so hopefully it works.
I also bought a very simple rubber + velco mount which could be used for either barrel of scope mounting. Yet to field test, but it will definitely be a ripper.

Re: Ultrafire WF-008 "recoil LED" torch

Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 1:40 pm
by fenring
I have the same mount - I thought it would be too low but as there's no spill with this light virtually no light hits the objective of the scope anyway. I have another QD Weaver style mount that I made this morning - will prolly use that in the end.

Re: Ultrafire WF-008 "recoil LED" torch

Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 3:20 pm
by Plowboy
If there is a tape switch that will fit I will be getting my order in ASAP.

Re: Ultrafire WF-008 "recoil LED" torch

Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 4:26 pm
by fenring
I dunno mate - DX has a few tape switches but I have no idea if they are compatible with this.

Re: Ultrafire WF-008 "recoil LED" torch

Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 6:50 pm
by badger74
Plowboy wrote:If there is a tape switch that will fit I will be getting my order in ASAP.
I'll let you know if the latest one i ordered fits when it arrives. If it doesnt, i'll mod the tailcap to fit one.

Re: Ultrafire WF-008 "recoil LED" torch

Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 9:38 am
by andrewk
good write up. can you compare that torch to the wolfeyes sealion and the 260 sniper? and how much is it and where did you get it from?

Re: Ultrafire WF-008 "recoil LED" torch

Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 10:15 am
by McDave
looks like my punt on one of these is going to pay off. thanks for the review/picks Fenring. looking forward to seeing the results of its trip out to meet the bunnies.

Re: Ultrafire WF-008 "recoil LED" torch

Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 11:40 am
by fenring
andrewk wrote:good write up. can you compare that torch to the wolfeyes sealion and the 260 sniper? and how much is it and where did you get it from?
No mate, I don't have any experience with the Sea Lion. I have seen a Sniper in action, very similar to my Eagletac. The Ultrafire out throws my Eagletac by another 50% distance wise - the beam is a LOT tighter. If you need a bit of peripheral spill, the Ultrafire is not for you. If you want long range only this light would work well. Now, from a point of view of robustness and handling being on for a few hours non-stop, I cannot comment on the Ultrafire just yet - I have not had a chance to to a full field test.

This is where the light came from.

http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.22934

Re: Ultrafire WF-008 "recoil LED" torch

Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 11:47 am
by andrewk
fenring wrote:
andrewk wrote:good write up. can you compare that torch to the wolfeyes sealion and the 260 sniper? and how much is it and where did you get it from?
No mate, I don't have any experience with the Sea Lion. I have seen a Sniper in action, very similar to my Eagletac. The Ultrafire out throws my Eagletac by another 50% distance wise - the beam is a LOT tighter. If you need a bit of peripheral spill, the Ultrafire is not for you. If you want long range only this light would work well. Now, from a point of view of robustness and handling being on for a few hours non-stop, I cannot comment on the Ultrafire just yet - I have not had a chance to to a full field test.

This is where the light came from.

http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.22934
thanks, look forward to a full review.

edit; holy shit! $26.94! getting all shakey and excited.

did it come with a charger?

Re: Ultrafire WF-008 "recoil LED" torch

Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 12:18 pm
by fenring
Yeah, can't go too far wrong for that money.

The torch just comes in a plain box with a carry strap. Deal Extreme sell the chargers and the 18650 batteries to go with it - so for about $60AUD you can set yourself up with the torch, charger, two batteries and a basic mount for scope / barrel mounting.

I'll be interested in how it stands up to field use and being left on for a couple of hours, and real effective runtimes. My Eagletac can run at full whack for about three hours on the same battery as this thing.

Re: Ultrafire WF-008 "recoil LED" torch

Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 12:29 pm
by andrewk
fenring wrote:Yeah, can't go too far wrong for that money.

The torch just comes in a plain box with a carry strap. Deal Extreme sell the chargers and the 18650 batteries to go with it - so for about $60AUD you can set yourself up with the torch, charger, two batteries and a basic mount for scope / barrel mounting.

I'll be interested in how it stands up to field use and being left on for a couple of hours, and real effective runtimes. My Eagletac can run at full whack for about three hours on the same battery as this thing.
yeah i found my wolfeyes runs for about 2hrs but i reckon it drops off light wise towards the end. i notice the difference with battery changes in the field. it's great on my 22lr with subbies, that set up doesn't tempt me into taking shots too far out past reliable hits. on the hummer it seems to limit me a little bit as to what you can spot and get a good shot at. doesn't light bunnies eyes enough or give you enough definition of target out past 90-100meters and we know the hummer is capable of more. :wink:

basically looking for a hummer torch.

maybe a sealoin down the track if there are centerfire worthy

Re: Ultrafire WF-008 "recoil LED" torch

Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 12:49 pm
by fenring
I know what you mean. The Eagletac I have goes a long way - I guess with bunnies 100m would see it out under ideal conditions - bunnies out in open country etc. A bit less if there's some cover as you just don't have the ability to define if you are looking at a bunny or something else.

Fox eyes show up a long, long way out - at least it allows me to work out where they are and whistle them or turn the light out and sneak closer. I have shot a few bunnies with the Eagletac set on 55 lumens - the tight centre spot means it's still good for 50m or so. The Eagletac is pretty good, but it runs out of puff before the HMR does.

This Ultrafire lights things right up at 100m. I was looking up into some gum trees last night, they would have been 150m away. With the scope on 12X I could have knocked the roosting birds out if I wanted to.

Re: Ultrafire WF-008 "recoil LED" torch

Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 5:03 pm
by r_j_t1982
so whats the runtime like?

Re: Ultrafire WF-008 "recoil LED" torch

Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 6:32 pm
by fenring
I don't know for certain as I haven't had it long enough - this bloke has done extensive testing on his. The amount of lux it puts on a target suggests three hours of pretty effective lighting, given how concentrated the spot is.

http://www.dealextreme.com/forums/Forum ... did.425716