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scope for custom 204

Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 5:58 pm
by matang
Have a custom 204 done by Shane Clancy due in feb 08
McMillan A3
Lija light Varmint (told one up from rem varmint profile)
Rem action
I am thinking of putting a Leopold VLX 6-20x56 on it. Has any one had experience with this scope. To be used at night for fox and cats.Or maybe a vx-7 4.4-18x56.

Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 6:12 pm
by Model70
Ask Rinso :P :wink:

Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 6:30 pm
by Rinso
matang,

I would say the Leupold VX-L is a quality bit of kit but at $1,099 USD and the VX-7 at $1600 + USD is way too much for a Leupold.

If you want to spend big coin on a scope I would suggest either Schmidt & Bender (arguably the best in the world) or Nightforce.

Personnally I would have a long hard look at the Vortex Viper 6.5-20x50 at $786.95 AUD or Leupold VXIII 6.5-20x50 for $880 USD as I am sure they would both meet all your needs.

cheers
Rinso

Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 6:59 pm
by trevort
I have a VX111 6.5-20x40 sitting waiting for mine and a 4200 elite 6-24x50 (new shorter side focus model) waiting for my 17 Mach Fireball.

The loopy was ordered when it was going to be a light varmint walk around but now its a heavy varmint in an A5 I am thinking the 4200 looks a bit more "tacticool" and may match the stock better.

I always got excited about larger objectives for spotlighting but in reality your target is in the centre of a bright light and dont really know that you need it.

My loopy cost $800 to my door when our dollar was worth a lot less and the 4200 has to be amongst the best value on TOZ site.

If you have the money for super top scopes why use a rem action, order a full custom instead! :lol:

Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 7:22 pm
by Rinso
trev,
My loopy cost $800 to my door
The scopes listed are 50mm objectives mate, as such the prices are higher (I got the Leupold prices from TOZ website) and the Vortex price from http://www.vortexoptics.com.au/

cheers
Rinso

Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 9:08 pm
by matang
I like the idea of having a 56 objective mounted low as you would with a 40. I use a piece of red celephane that you get from craft shops tapped over spotlight. So the bigger objective helps. I have used a 3200 and 4200 and could not see any difference. Both great scopes.

Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 9:51 pm
by Nick S
I wasn't really impressed by the performance of the VX-L in a reveiw i read. The POI shifted about 3/4 MOA through the power scale, not good enough for a scope with that pricetag IMO. :?
Sounds like a lovely rifle! Can't wait to see pics. :D

Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 10:33 pm
by trevort
Rinso wrote:trev,
My loopy cost $800 to my door
The scopes listed are 50mm objectives mate, as such the prices are higher (I got the Leupold prices from TOZ website) and the Vortex price from http://www.vortexoptics.com.au/

cheers
Rinso
and you tell me this because? I only mentioned the price I paid for mine and made no comment about any of the other prices :roll:

Yes I did spot mine has a smaller OBJ!

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 5:05 am
by Ned Kelly
G'Day Matang,
I the scope I use and would buy again is the 6.5-20x40EFR leupy. Can be fitted from everything from an air rifle to LR target rifle, done both!

As for varminting, I had the straight 6.5-20x40 on my 22-250 and it was superb, not to big, excellent optics, and most importantly did not change the point of impact when zooming up or down.

The differences between the 2 are the EFR has parallax adjustment down to 10m and has target turrets, which I prefer. And the EFR can be found locally for less than $1000-. Which I believe your getting a lot of scope for that price.

Cheerio Ned

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 2:00 pm
by Rinso
trev,

I tell you that because I did not want you to think I having a crack at Leupold or TOZ .. just trying to prevent a needless debate ... :shock:

cheers
Rinso

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 2:09 pm
by HAIR BEAR
LEOPOLD OR VORTEX ????? :shock:
if vortex equals the quality of leopold ,hey its more money to ammo ...ect
Can't be much of a debate ,can it

Only being a shit

'Sorry" :D

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 3:08 pm
by trevort
I'm not a loopy fanatic by the way. When Shane is finished I will have 8 rifles and one loopy

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 4:44 pm
by Rinso
Trev,

Never said you was mate .. just making an observation.


Hair Bear,
LEOPOLD OR VORTEX ?????
if vortex equals the quality of leopold ,hey its more money to ammo ...ect
Can't be much of a debate ,can it
I agree entirely mate, why pay more for the name spend the extra coin on ammo, dies, bore guide etc

cheers
Rinso

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 5:37 pm
by zzsstt
Just out of interest, why has nobody mentioned personal imports of Vortex scopes? I've just found a US website from where it would appear I could get this Vortex Viper 6.5-20x50 scope for about $630AUD delivered.

Mind you, my biggest issue with this scope, and also with the Leupold of the same size, is the "target turrets". For a working gun they look like they'd get in the way and get caught on things, though I've never used a scope with tall turrets so I don't know for sure.... It looks like the "biggest" scope I can get, from either company, with short turrets is a 4.5-14x50

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 5:53 pm
by trevort
Rinso, we are ending up having a bloody debate. the last comment wasnt aimed at you, it was letting the author know I have a balanced opinion on the quality of loopys (even tho I havent used it yet).

Right me and you dont talk to each other on this thread no more, OK :lol: