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New to ARs
Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 1:36 pm
by badger74
Gday guys,
First post in this section, so be kind.
I've been pondering the idea of getting myself an AR to do a little rabbit shooting on a small property I use (20 acres) There are neighbors around so I want it to be as quiet as possible so as to not annoy, I do occasionally use a .22 but I let the neighbour know before hand.
I've found the rabbits come quite close to the house in the mornings so i could actually shoot them through an open window!
I'd also like to set myself up a little range to use for target practice, as I would get to do a lot more AR shooting than centerfire.
As usual, Im on a tight budget, and want to start off with something that will do the job, and be quiet. I know if i get the bug, I will have to upgrade later, but thats fine.
What sort of AR would you guys recomend. My only previous AR experience is my old mans BSA? from 30 years ago.
From reading through here I have found there are different types of ARs,(gas filled? springers? etc) but I don't really know what I need. Any help would be great.
Thanks in advance
Re: New to ARs
Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 2:12 pm
by ogre6br
Lewis is your friend
See what he can offer- you cannot do any better.
Lewis will have something in .20 or 22 cal that will do the job
later
P
Re: New to ARs
Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 6:09 pm
by SWIPER
AR's could be for me too?...how far and straight do they shoot?
Re: New to ARs
Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 7:57 pm
by ogre6br
SWIPER wrote:AR's could be for me too?...how far and straight do they shoot?
Swiper you are really asking how long is a piece of string-
how far do you want them to shoot??
what budget do you have?
hunting with an AG upto 100M is possible but expensive?
does it have to be useable but a full grown man only or will the mrs and kids be using it-- high power barrel breakers can be hard to work
give us a bit more of an idea what you want to achieve?
Yes rabbits at 50 yards is doable easy without breaking the bank.
it's more a question of your ability to place the shot properly than the outright power of the rifle.
later
p
Re: New to ARs
Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 6:18 am
by stinkitup
SWIPER wrote:AR's could be for me too?...how far and straight do they shoot?
Mate check out some of Yrrah's posts, incredible AR Groups.
Re: New to ARs
Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 6:33 pm
by RayG
stinkitup wrote:SWIPER wrote:AR's could be for me too?...how far and straight do they shoot?
Here is an idea of how good these A/R,s can be even with an average shooter like me!
Shot with an FX Gladiator .22 (PCP) Kodiak 21 Grn pellets with about a 5mph cross wind Right to Left.(51 Yards = 47 metres lazered).
A good "springer" can come close this if you are good enough shot.
Ray
Re: New to ARs
Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 6:47 pm
by SWIPER
FFFARK!!
50meters...100meters... my interpretation of an AR was a rusty old clunker used to plink coke cans in the back yard.
For arguments sake, budget $400.00 including scope, use sniping bunnies and plinking from a verandah on acerage.
Also are new age AR's very loud? Could you use one in a suburban back yard?
Re: New to ARs
Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 7:01 pm
by RayG
I am sure Lewis could sort you guys out with a quality "Springer" that will do the job you want it for.
Even on your budget there are very good AR,s to be had from him,and what he sells will hit what you aim them at.
The average spring powered AR is not that loud,but I would check out the safety/Legality issues with using it in your back yard,depends where you live I guess.
Go for it guys, Ray.
Re: New to ARs
Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 8:47 am
by stinkitup
So far with the R9 I have only shot around 10 meters and at wood backed targets and I am sure the hit on the target is lowder than the springer, by a fair margain, no twang no vibration crap that you hear about with springers, maybe there cheap, yes the R9 is kitted up by Lewis but well worth it. Will sort some pics soon too.
Re: New to ARs
Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 9:17 am
by ant
Boys,
As everyone tells you. Do your research, be guided by Lewis. There are no silly questions we all started out once.
Don't be sucked in at the local gun shops by 1000f/s and better cheapies. Save your money and spend the little bit extra for quality air rifles that are backed by Lewis' incredible service. Remeber if pennies are tight then Lewis also sells quality second hand air rifles.
I had an R9 in 20 cal but my daughter won't give it back. Also have an R10 in .177 simply brilliant for my uses.
Ant
P.S. I'm not on commission from Lewis
Re: New to ARs
Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 9:33 am
by ogre6br
To me at $400 you are about $200 short. If you look at Lewis' recent- end of financial year posts - all the quality S/H ag's were in the $400 mark for the rifle.
I subscribe to the "Buy once cry once" principle- buy the best you can afford once and enjoy the benefits that buying quality brings.
For me I'd spend the $400 on a top notch S/H hunting rifle from Lewis.
and save for the scope later on.
With a good set of open sights you will still be able to hunt small game.
Later
P
Re: New to ARs
Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 9:57 am
by Lewis Reinhold
ant wrote:Boys,
As everyone tells you. Do your research, be guided by Lewis. There are no silly questions we all started out once.
Don't be sucked in at the local gun shops by 1000f/s and better cheapies. Save your money and spend the little bit extra for quality air rifles that are backed by Lewis' incredible service. Remeber if pennies are tight then Lewis also sells quality second hand air rifles.
I had an R9 in 20 cal but my daughter won't give it back. Also have an R10 in .177 simply brilliant for my uses.
Ant
P.S. I'm not on commission from Lewis
Thanks Ant.
PS He sure isn't on commission!
Re: New to ARs
Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 10:02 am
by Lewis Reinhold
ogre6br wrote:To me at $400 you are about $200 short. If you look at Lewis' recent- end of financial year posts - all the quality S/H ag's were in the $400 mark for the rifle.
I subscribe to the "Buy once cry once" principle- buy the best you can afford once and enjoy the benefits that buying quality brings.
For me I'd spend the $400 on a top notch S/H hunting rifle from Lewis.
and save for the scope later on.
With a good set of open sights you will still be able to hunt small game.
Later
P
Thanks Patrick.
I'm getting light on for airguns and only have a few left around the price.
This is it
NEW
1x Beeman R9 .20 $695
1x Beeman R1 .22 $995
1x Norica Storm .177 $495
1x Norica Marvic .22 $495
PREOWNED (Rebuilt)
Webley Omega .22 $250
Webley Vulcan .22 $250
Diana 36 .177 $250
Thanks,
Lewis
Re: New to ARs
Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 10:07 am
by ant
Badger
Go for the R9
Re: New to ARs
Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 7:04 pm
by SWIPER
Thanks guys, all very helpful.
Here I am contemplating a 223 and stressing where i will get to use it, maybe I will enjoy a AR more??
I will post more when Im ready.
Maybe one more question though, whats the deal with interstate purchases, are they easy? Is shipping secure and expensive and do the authorities even allow it?