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Benjamin .357 Rogue PCP - it's a whopper

Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 6:09 am
by fenring
Here:

http://www.crosman.com/blogs/croswords/?p=1297

There's some photos here.

http://www.americanairgunhunter.com/rouge.html

This thing is enormous.

Wouldn't want to miss a sparrow and hit the spouting with this beast. :lol:

Re: Benjamin .357 Rogue PCP - it's a whopper

Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 8:00 pm
by kjd
WoW.
That is just awesome. I hope they bring them to Australia.
They would be great fun. I'll definitely be posting about this on H&S Fen Thanks mate.

Re: Benjamin .357 Rogue PCP - it's a whopper

Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 10:00 pm
by fenring
You don't see much Crosman gear out here for some reason - they have a lot of new and interesting stuff - the Discovery and Marauder PCP's and the Marauder PCP pistol, the Trail NP Nitro piston guns and now this beast.

I'd be interested to see what customs and the FAR make of the Rogue....

Re: Benjamin .357 Rogue PCP - it's a whopper

Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 10:04 pm
by kjd
fenring wrote:You don't see much Crosman gear out here for some reason - they have a lot of new and interesting stuff - the Discovery and Marauder PCP's and the Marauder PCP pistol, the Trail NP Nitro piston guns and now this beast.

I'd be interested to see what customs and the FAR make of the Rogue....
Hopefully I'll find out.
I'll give Raytrade a call (Crosman's Aus Distributor) in the next few weeks and try and get some dates and hopefully secure a review unit.

Interesting thing is they worked with Nosler (Nioa) to make a special projectile for it so maybe Raytrade won't bother, I was thinking shooting cast or pistol projectiles out of this would be the smart bet for this.
They are actually aiming this at predator hunters which is very interesting, I can't see no reason why a 145gn pill travelling at 800fps wouldn't kill a fox, cat or coyote under 80m can you?

Re: Benjamin .357 Rogue PCP - it's a whopper

Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 10:15 pm
by fenring
kjd wrote:
Hopefully I'll find out.
I'll give Raytrade a call (Crosman's Aus Distributor) in the next few weeks and try and get some dates and hopefully secure a review unit.

Interesting thing is they worked with Nosler (Nioa) to make a special projectile for it so maybe Raytrade won't bother, I was thinking shooting cast or pistol projectiles out of this would be the smart bet for this.
They are actually aiming this at predator hunters which is very interesting, I can't see no reason why a 145gn pill travelling at 800fps wouldn't kill a fox, cat or coyote under 80m can you?
Yeah, cast would be the way to go. TBH, I wouldn't want an expanding type pill if I was shooting larger critters with that. Expansion = less penetration and it will do its job through placement and penetration. And TBH a .357 bullet at 800fps will make mincemeat of any pest bird, hollow point or not and easily take rabbits and hares. Brain shots on foxes would be rather effective I imagine.

The right sort of mould (with deep but narrow driving bands for less friction + power loss through drag) would be the way to go.

Re: Benjamin .357 Rogue PCP - it's a whopper

Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 10:23 pm
by kjd
You going to get one??

Re: Benjamin .357 Rogue PCP - it's a whopper

Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 10:32 pm
by fenring
Nah, not my scene really. I like my airguns to be svelte and not overly powerful - for me the attraction in them is that they are easy and cheap to shoot and with sufficient power for a few pest birds and the odd bunny.

If I need more than that I reach for a powder burner. :mrgreen:

But I admire it for the breakthrough that it represents - a mainstream airgun company offering a big bore. And better still, it's not Gamo! :lol:

Here is a much more refined powerhouse

Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2011 2:37 pm
by Yrrah
Compare the Crosman 250 max fpe ugly duckling

http://www.americanairgunhunter.com/Rouge2.JPG

To the Beautiful Beaumont .32 at 275 fpe with 158 gr bullets at 857 fps and claimed less than 2" groups at 200 metres!

Beaumont Classic

http://www.beaumont-airguns.nl/applicat ... ges/12.jpg

Beaumont Warrior

http://www.beaumont-airguns.nl/images/DSC04903.JPG

Of course beauty and performance costs money. .................. Kind regards, Harry.

Re: Benjamin .357 Rogue PCP - it's a whopper

Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2011 10:56 pm
by fenring
Nice.

Re: Benjamin .357 Rogue PCP - it's a whopper

Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2011 10:23 am
by Chrispy
Very nice...