wow thanks whitey & fenring that's awesome info about the torches .
ok i test fired a 22 cal hw80 last night & i'm sold on it . 473 pages into a dry phone book , & dented upto 598 pages . i was very impressed , it had a gold crown air king fixed 4x scope with one piece mount . mates the trigger was amazing , has to be one of the best triggers of any rifle i have handled , so much so that my mate had to pull out some of his target rifles to compere them to it . we went shot for shot againts his gamo 2000 magnum 22 cal , um not even a contest in power , accuracy , trigger . if that's not enough look on you tube at peoples reveiws , they rave about it . it seems like they can be tweeked up in the power to . in short love at first shot

. although it wasn't cared for that well or at all , it has scratches & dings & light pitting & that dry looking surface rust all over it . well hopefully that might sweeten the price . asking $490 ???? not sure how much new ??? but it will fall within my budget with money left over for a torch set up . i though it would be louder than it is . put it this way , now my mate want's it lucky we just took his martini to the smith the night before hahahaha & can't afford it really . i better not speak to soon as he works in the shop that's selling it

. what do yous think of that for hares . & do you know where to get the power up mods ? never thought i'd spend that money on air ??? well cheers guy's . btw i pick up my daisy 901 power line today , that's my new toad gun . pitty it took 9 months to get it my hands . ( customs , 1st pta expired while in customs , 2nd pta never made it to us & expired heaps of phone calls & being told it's on it's way , then got it on 3rd pta . is that revinue rasing or what ????

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