Springvale SSAA Range

[X WSSM]

Thinking of getting down to the range Monday night for some practice with the Crusader
Anybody got some tips for shooting a springer?

[rick342]

Hi X, Great gun. Don't hold it tight when firing, just let it recoil and maintain aim on target. Practice.
Cheers
Rick

[Lewis Reinhold]

Hi X, Great gun. Don't hold it tight when firing, just let it recoil and maintain aim on target. Practice.
Cheers
Rick

Well said Rick.Thank you!!!The Crusader will deliver the goods.
Lewis

[ogre6br]

on the crusaider stock near the breech are there 2 flats in the stock??

if there are and you are shooting assisted post

grip those flats between thumb and forfinger quite tight and then sit the stock in your shoulder and push back a bit to keep it there- moderate push back pressure

and just let the trigger of with minimal back hand contact with the stock

thats one method

the other is using the flat of your hand an just letting the forend sitting on your flat open hand while you keep control of the rifle with the back hand ns stock pressure

the crusaiders a gas gun not a springer isn't it??

later
P

[RayG]

Rick and Patrick are right on the money XW, be gentle Dont strangle it,ride the recoil and follow through,watch your POA all the time is the way to do it. You will realise just how accurate the Theoben Gasram guns can be.
Noel. Ray

[X WSSM]

Thanks guys
Are trying to get my shit together before the Xmas trip

[daisy]

This may be of some use or not.
I have had this on my computer since 02 .
The gentleman that wrote is a part time airgun smith.

HTH
Daisy


Russ B
Thu Jan 10 '02


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Many shooters using a spring gun for the first time complain they cannot
get
good groups with their guns. Rarely is this a problem with the gun.
There have been many discussions amongst airgunners about Hold
Sensitivity. What
is hold sensitivity? What guns are hold sensitive? How do I deal with a
hold
sensitive rifle? What can be done to reduce hold sensitivity? Let's look
at a
couple generalities, then get down to specifics.
Generally, guns that use pre-compressed gasses to develop power are not
what
we'd call hold sensitive. These include CO2,pump pneumatics and
pre-charged
pneumatics(PCP). Spring guns are nearly always more hold sensitive than
the
above mentioned types because of their recoilling nature. The moving
mechanical
mass jolts the gun when fired. Keeping the gun pointed at the desired
target,
while the pellet moves down the barrel is of utmost importance.
With a spring powered gun, the shooter must develop a VERY consistent
method of
shooting. This method has been called the "Artillery Hold" by Tom
Gaylord, and
the "Howitzer Hold" by Larry Durham. No matter which name you choose, it
amounts
to pretty much the same style of shooting. Another term used in
conjunction with
these is "follow through", which really has nothing to do with the way
the gun
is held prior to the trigger being pulled. Follow Through is what you do
after
the sear is released, and is only part of the Howitzer Hold technique.
The technique itself involves having minimal contact with your gun while
aiming
abd shooting. This means you don't GRIP the forestock, but rather you
let it
just lay on top of your hand. The finger grooves and fancy checkering on
spring
airguns is more of a styling carryover from firearms, and doesn't serve
much
purpose when firing a springer. This also means you rest your gun on
your hand
at the same point on the forestock every time. Champion airgunner Nick
Jenkinson
wrote an article on choosing the best contact point for your gun,
finding that
it's usually located at some point ranging from 2 to 7 inches in front
of your
trigger guard. Wherever your "sweetspot" is, use it consistently.
Changing from
one contact point to another, can alter your point of impact.
The next thing to watch is your grip on the rifles pistol grip. I rarely
wrap my
thumb around the grip, but instead- just barely touch the back of the
pistol
grip. Some shooters like to point their thumb up the back of the grip,
thumbtip
aiming at the end cap of the receiver tube. The fingers wrapping around
the grip
should just have very light contact with the gun. I generally only allow
the two
centermost fingers to control the grip- more to keep the gun from
leaning off
the vertical plane than anything else.
Another important point is to just use the pad of your fingertip on the
trigger.
Don't wrap the first finger joint around the trigger blade. When
squeezing off
the shot, apply no side pressure to the trigger blade - just ease it
straight
back towards the heel of your thumb. Don't rush the shot either! If you
move off
target, stop pulling the trigger. Regain the bullseye and start over
with the
firing sequence.
Next is cheek contact with the stock. It should be very light. Don't lay
your
face down on the comb of the stock. Touch your cheek to the same spot
with each
shot.
Pull the gun up to your shoulder, then relax the 'pull-in' pressure to
the point
where the butt is merely touching your shoulder.
After you've learned all this, you still have to 'follow through' with
your aim,
once the gun is fired. Proper follow through involves keeping your eyes
on the
target, as best you can, while allowing the gun to float straight back
in its'
recoil. If you cannot master this follow through, everything else you've
done,
no matter how perfect, will place your pellets where you DON'T want
them.
Other techiniques to help master a hold sensitive gun are breathing and
adjusting your trigger properly-- when possible.
Just because a gun is hold sensitive doesn't make it inaccurate! Many
extermely
accurate springers can be hold sensitive, but to be precise, a shooter
MUST be
CONSISTENT. Without mastering consistency, the most expensive spring gun
is only
as mediocre as it shooter.
Another way to reduce hold sensitivity is to get the gun professionally
tuned. A
good tune removes excessive recoil and vibration, and improves the guns
shot to
shot consistency. Improved groups are almost always the result. The gun
is also
less fatiguing to shoot.
Even when the shooter is doing everything just right, they have the
feeling the
gun should be shooting smaller groups. This is usually an indication of
the guns
preference for a certain style or weight of pellet. Many airguns are
pellet
sensitive, not just spring guns. The quickest way to find your guns
pellet
preference is to ask other owners who have the same gun and caliber what
works
well for them. Because each gun is an individual, you may still need to
experiment with pellets of various weights and skirt sizes to determine
what is
truly the best for your own gun.
Springers require a certain amount finesse and experience before you can
appreciate them. A shooter who is very good with a spring gun is usually
an
excellent firearms shot, but not necessarily vice versa. Good Shooting
!~ Russ

[X WSSM]

So the next thing is at what distant do I zero it in at?
These air guns are a bit different to what I'm use to using

BUT SHIT THERE FUN

[rick342]

Hi mate, mine is zeroed at 36 metres.
Rick

[X WSSM]

SHIT
Got there tonight after making a call to find out the hours to find the sign on the door saying
THIS RANGE WILL
BE CLOSED FOR 3 WEEKS
FROM THE 21 DECEMBER

Think I was happy?

[ogre6br]

SHIT
Got there tonight after making a call to find out the hours to find the sign on the door saying
THIS RANGE WILL
BE CLOSED FOR 3 WEEKS
FROM THE 21 DECEMBER

Think I was happy?

go see len

use his range down stairs

P

[Predator]

SHIT
Got there tonight after making a call to find out the hours to find the sign on the door saying
THIS RANGE WILL
BE CLOSED FOR 3 WEEKS
FROM THE 21 DECEMBER

Think I was happy?

wow, that blows. and I was hoping to check that range out since its near my house and I have 2 weeks off. pffft.