Pellets aint pellets.!!!

[native hunter]

G"day All
Had this discussion with many a airgun nut at many different ranges and most all seem to say that many pellets are the same just named different.
Well I think that is bullshit and if you try two similiar pellets from different companies you will see they fire different and have very slight differences.
Even pellet batches from the same company can and will fire/group different.
I have found a chart that was put together by a bloke but cant save it and get it up here but i will keep trying and you can see the comparison on most popular calibres and brands.
Regards
I will e-mail you the list if you like.
I dont know how to paste or put a link in.
http://www.airguninfo.com/pelletweights.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[Hilly]

This is something I put together for the Weihrauch forum. Havn't been to see if they posted it anywhere. With luck it will turn up as some sort of attatchment. I hope.
Model Name Calibre Weight (10 ) Weight (1 ) Shape Material
JSB
Exact Jumbo 0.22 158.7Grain 15.7Grain Dome Pb
Straton Jumbo 0.22 159.8Grain 15.8 Grain Pointed Pb
Exact Heavy 0.177 103.5Grain 10.1 Grain Dome Pb
Field Target 0.177 84.7Grain 8.4 Grain Dome Pb By H&N
Beeman
Silver Bear 0.177 72.7Grain 7.0Grain Hollow Point Pb
Silver Sting 0.177 81.1Grain 8.0 Grain Pointed Pb
Field Target 0.22 148Grain 14.8 Grain Dome Pb By H&N
Ramjet 0.20 117.2Grain 12.1 Grain Pointed Pb
Silver Bear 0.22 127.7Grain 12.6 Grain Hollow Point Pb
Gamo
0.22 141 Grain 14.3 Grain Dome Pb
Pro Magnum 0.22 169.7 Grain 15.2 Grain Dome Pb
TS10 0.177 103.8 Grain 10.6 Grain Dome Pb
TS18 0.22 179.3 Grain 18Grain Dome Pb
Rocket 0.177 95.9 Grain 9.7 Grain Steel tip insertComposite
Rocket 0.22 140.6 Grain 14.5 Grain Steel tip insertComposite
Pro match 0.177 80 Grain 8.1 Grain Flat Pb
Round Ball 0.177 81Grain 8.3 Grain Round Pb
Raptor PowerPellet 0.177 51.8Grain 5.3 Grain Dome Alloy

AP1775 0.177 79.8Grain 8.6 Grain Dome Pb
AP2250 0.22 144.1 Grain 14.7 Grain Dome Pb
Paragon 0.177 80 Grain 8.4 Grain Dome (Al insert) Plastic

Hubertus 0.22 149.2Grain 14.7 Grain Flat Pb
Hubertus 0.177 82.8Grain 8.3Grain Flat Pb
RWS
Hollow Point 0.177 69.4 Grain 6.9Grain Hollow Point Pb
Field Target 0.177 84.8 Grain 8.5 Grain Dome Pb
R10 0.177 82.5 Grain 8.7Grain Flat Pb
R10 Match 0.177 69.9 Grain 7.2Grain Flat Pb
Miesterklugen Yel 0.177 84 Grain 8.3 Grain Flat Pb
Miesterklugen Blue 0.177 79.2Grain 7.7 Grain Flat Pb
Hobby Green 0.177 70.7 Grain 7.6 Grain Flat Pb
Superdome 0.22 145.8 Grain 14.7 Grain Dome Pb
Superpoint Extra 0.177 82.8Grain 8.6 Grain Pointed Pb
Gat.
Dart 0.177 143 Grain 16 Grain Sharp Point Steel Nasty looking Dart!

[Hilly]

Well, not quite how I thought it would look but........Better than nothing?
Is there a clever person that can organise that little lot back into a spreadsheet format?
Pleeeeze?
Dennis.

[native hunter]

Thats a good comparison table but a bit hard to read as the calibres are mixed and the brands are missing from many.
The table I found was split into 3 calibres and was in weight order with type and brand.
I'm still trying to get it here.
Regards

[Lewis Reinhold]

G"day All
Had this discussion with many a airgun nut at many different ranges and most all seem to say that many pellets are the same just named different.
Well I think that is bullshit and if you try two similiar pellets from different companies you will see they fire different and have very slight differences.
Even pellet batches from the same company can and will fire/group different.
I have found a chart that was put together by a bloke but cant save it and get it up here but i will keep trying and you can see the comparison on most popular calibres and brands.
Regards
I will e-mail you the list if you like.
I dont know how to paste or put a link in.

You're right Damien.I love it when a smartass stocks up on the 'H&N equivalent' or what his 'research' has identified as 'the same as' a certain Beeman pellet,only to find that it isn't.Not just in quality but also sometimes in shape,weight,fit,dimensions etc.
I see those cross reference charts and for the most part,find them highly amusing.

[native hunter]

Lewis,
The table I found was a good one and a very good comparison table, It tells the truth.?
regards

[Lewis Reinhold]

Lewis,
The table I found was a good one and a very good comparison table, It tells the truth.?
regards

The truth?Not always.Robert Beeman always told me that companies like H&N make up to four grades of pellets.Robert always insisted on the very best ones for the Beeman tins.
An example of three similar pellets existed in the H&N produced Beeman pellets,the Laser Sport,Match and Finale Match.They all look the same,even weigh around the same but they don't shoot the same.Laser Sport was one third the price of FM and half the price of Match.You can see the differences pretty dramatically through a chronograph and on targets.
Another good example is the Baracuda/Kodiak and Field Target/FTS comparison.I got sick of the "H&N equivalents' coming back for credit on the the Beeman pellets.I have boxes of H&N pellets that nobody wants.
I concede that those cross reference charts are interesting.

[native hunter]

Thats good enough for me, Its just a few misinformed you have to convince.
Regards

[adonn223]

I'm confused
Lewis,
are you saying that the different brands of pellets are all made in the same factory but Beeman take the very best ones and leave the rest for other brands to use?

[Lewis Reinhold]

I'm confused
Lewis,
are you saying that the different brands of pellets are all made in the same factory but Beeman take the very best ones and leave the rest for other brands to use?

No,I'm not saying that at all.When Robert and Tosh Beeman started Beeman Precision Airguns in 1972,they soon found the best brands like Weihrauch,Feinwerkbau,Webley,H&N,Hakko etc and began promoting them.Robert is a marketing genius with a real love for airguns and an eye for quality.
He successfully convinced the Germans that there was a huge market for adult airguns etc in the USA and he backed it up with orders.
The Germans were very happy with the business and had never achieved numbers like that before.Beeman's had so much pull they got the quality they wanted and soon started ordering in their own packaging.
Customers knew that if it was branded Beeman,it was the very best version,grade and most powerful in the case of airguns.Often,Beeman airguns wore special Beeman designed stocks and had features the regular production did not have.

[adonn223]

thanks for clearing that up

[Lewis Reinhold]

Thats good enough for me, Its just a few misinformed you have to convince.
Regards

Thanks Damien.There will always be the doubters though,no matter what.

[beebox]

Well, not quite how I thought it would look but........Better than nothing?
Is there a clever person that can organise that little lot back into a spreadsheet format?
Pleeeeze?
Dennis.

I tried to attach Hilly's original Excel spreadsheet but it didn't seem to work. So...alternatively I have posted it on my webspace at http://users.tpg.com.au/beebox/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Also there, you will find some rabbit inspection stuff that may be of interest.