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.30-378
Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 6:26 pm
by R.J.
Anyone here shoot a .30-378? I am interested in this cal for long range Fox/Goat work. Any pros/cons to consider????
Re: .30-378
Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 6:48 pm
by Rinso
What sort of ranges are you talking about ?
cheers
Rinso
Re: .30-378
Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 7:00 pm
by R.J.
300-350m ish. Does that sound reasonable? Its long rang for me....
Re: .30-378
Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 7:04 pm
by Mevo2230
Thats a pretty big cartridge for something that small that close.
Something 308 based should do that easy, thought about the 260 rem?
Re: .30-378
Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 7:13 pm
by R.J.
I currently shoot a .204R and while I know speed is not everything, I like the idea of 4000fps. I see the .30-378 can send a 130gn projectile down range at around 3700fps. So to me, that means little or no hold over for 300m shots.
Re: .30-378
Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 8:56 pm
by bushchook
Good choice ! If you miss they'll still be killed by the muzzle blast at that range . Really serious overkill and a very poor choice for little foxes and goats at 350m . Barrel life with light projectiles perhaps 500 - 700 rounds . It's a cartridge with sufficient energy to take moose at 500m plus with heavier projectiles . Well suited to the long range trophy hunter that fires 20 shots per year but not for culling of copious light skinned ferals .
.240 - .257 Weatherby would be absolutely heaps . .25/06 or .270 (Win. , WSM or Weatherby) would work very well . I would be supremely confident on either species at that range with my .243AI .
Suggest you get a rangefinder and print off a bullet drop chart if you have difficulty estimating range .
Re: .30-378
Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 10:00 pm
by Rinso
I agree with bushchook the 30-378 is way too much gun for what your looking at anything from 25.06 to 308 should do it easy and yes even a 243.
I would lean to a 243, 25.06, 260, 6.5x55 or 6.5-284, 7-08 or 308 as more than capable and easily reloaded or run on factory ammo.
Re: .30-378
Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 11:39 pm
by Glenn
Re: .30-378
Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2008 8:18 am
by dave
if youre a speed freak try a 6-284 or a small roy round, otherwise i think the ye olde 25-06 will do everything you need and if you push them hard they are pretty damn flat!
Re: .30-378
Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2008 9:30 am
by 1kshot
Glenn I had to read it twice as well
Single minded accuracy nut bench rest shooters must loose there minds in spring (it is the windy months)
J.R. it is a lot of gun for work in that close and for 30 cal in a carry around weight it recoils like a pig grabbed by the back leg.
For a goat/pig/dear a 308 will be more than enough out to 300 and give you a good selection of pills or if you want something faster and flatter look at the 30-06 or even a 300wsm (just remember the short fat cases don’t feed as nice as a 06 style case)
For a fox/goat gun a 6mm/243 - 6.5mm/264 range would be a good selection and yes I would have to agree with rinso the 243win is a fine choice
Just something to think about you only have to hit a vital zone eg on a fox about 4in on a goat about 6in even a 308 with 150grns at 2700 and a 200 zero will stay in the vital zone only drop about 9in at 300 which on a goat is only a 3in hold over (or a shot at the top of the spine) and a 243with 87grn and 200 zero brops about 6 in.
Out shooting most shots you see at longer ranges are going over the top because most people think it’s a 500mtr shot when its only 250mtr and a zero hold would of hit the mark.
All the best
John
Re: .30-378
Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2008 12:26 pm
by R.J.
Thanks for the replies.
After reading your thoughts, I am now looking at a .25/06 or .243
Cheers!
Re: .30-378
Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2008 2:39 pm
by trevort
300wsm cases feed just fine
Re: .30-378
Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2008 7:07 am
by feralbuster
R.J.,
I'd agree with the 25-06 for both species, but for long range on goats the 243 lacks energy IMHO. (I replaced my 243 with a 7-08 for culling goats, and it's good up to 300yds)
I'm considering a tactical style rifle down the track for goats at the ranges you are talking about, and am thinking a 300WSM fits the bill. Other LR choices would be a 270WSM, or even a 6.5-284. Good trajectories, accuracy and projectiles with good BC's.
Also, for long range work on goats, velocity isn't everything. If you did buy a 30-378, for example, a 180gn pill has much better Ballistic coeffecient, and you'd probably find that it would have more velocity (and obviously energy) out past 300yds than a 130gner, even though it starts slower.
Have a look at the remington catalogue's ballistics page and you will see what I mean, it shows trajectories/velocities/energies for all their factory ammo.
Re: .30-378
Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2008 12:02 pm
by R.J.
Thanks feralbuster, Im heading to that page now.
After reading my Reloading Manual, the 25.06 sounds perfect for my needs.
Re: .30-378
Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2008 3:45 pm
by Rinso