Ruger VT's

[Dr G]

Its far more capable then MOA mate. I had a trip planned with it but it fell through so I rushed load dev and got MOA with most loads and I was only needing MOA so I didn't bother doing any more load dev. I reckon with some 140 BT's or something along those lines it will be singing. It did pretty good with the 120gn Vmax and once again it was a rushed load. I reckon with a bit of fiddling .75moa is a given.

I think you are probably right on the money there Keith. Both me and Elmer Fudd were well impressed with the consistency of the Ruger. I have a few projects in the fire at the moment but once I have some time this ruger and I have some serious load exploration to do.

Alan Swann has done a great job with the gunsmithing and you and HiWall obviously looked after it. I am very happy with this rifle

Dr G

[kjd]

Its far more capable then MOA mate. I had a trip planned with it but it fell through so I rushed load dev and got MOA with most loads and I was only needing MOA so I didn't bother doing any more load dev. I reckon with some 140 BT's or something along those lines it will be singing. It did pretty good with the 120gn Vmax and once again it was a rushed load. I reckon with a bit of fiddling .75moa is a given.

I think you are probably right on the money there Keith. Both me and Elmer Fudd were well impressed with the consistency of the Ruger. I have a few projects in the fire at the moment but once I have some time this ruger and I have some serious load exploration to do.

Alan Swann has done a great job with the gunsmithing and you and HiWall obviously looked after it. I am very happy with this rifle

Dr G

Not to mention the fact you got it for a steal haha. I miss it now mate I can tell you that. If you ever sell it let me know first ok?

[mistit]

Spot on Brad Y ..luck of the draw sometimes. ive even had a 40x 22.250 that was disapointing .

[Brad Y]

Yeah well their two stage triggers IMO are good but have been made heavy at request of lawyers but they are crisp and really one of the best on a stock rifle. No need for an aftermarket trigger really.

Just gotta ask though what relevance is it that you work for a multi million dollar company? Is it firearm related? Just that most people work for multi million dollar companies and I'm wondering the relevance of what you were saying?

Telling the ignorant bloke that no im not a "poor workman" and that I actually dont work full time with guns at all. But Ive spent enough time around them to realise that you get bad ones and good ones. What good is a forum where you cant tell people of your experience with things. Bloody stupid post if you ask me.

[kjd]

Yeah well their two stage triggers IMO are good but have been made heavy at request of lawyers but they are crisp and really one of the best on a stock rifle. No need for an aftermarket trigger really.

Just gotta ask though what relevance is it that you work for a multi million dollar company? Is it firearm related? Just that most people work for multi million dollar companies and I'm wondering the relevance of what you were saying?

Telling the ignorant bloke that no im not a "poor workman" and that I actually dont work full time with guns at all. But Ive spent enough time around them to realise that you get bad ones and good ones. What good is a forum where you cant tell people of your experience with things. Bloody stupid post if you ask me.

Fair enough but ones job probably doesn't relate to their firearm knowledge (unless its in the industry and even then there are plenty in the industry that don't know shit)

[Brad Y]

I do agree with you mate, there are lots of people who dont realise just how little they know- or maybe they seem absent minded because they are just looking for quick sales. I used to work 50 hrs a week on the tools. Didnt get time to scratch myself. Now i work a desk job and do 38hr weeks, Ive got the extra time and money to get down the shop more often. Just dont tell that to the missus as there is a house being built atm and a wedding coming up in a couple of months. Im looking forward to doing more bits and pieces around the shop when I can though. I assisted with the action trueing and preparation of all the metal parts on the 20 practical tikka Ive had built- which is done now, just waiting for the permit. Pretty much Im thinking I will do the same with my next one soon too. People who are interested in how their guns work and how they can tweak them can really learn alot from watching someone experienced build an accurate rifle.

[kjd]

Mate the more I learn the more I realise how little I know.

[Brad Y]

Mate the more I learn the more I realise how little I know.

Got the same problem... but with women

[chris.tyne]

The chances of getting a good one is about the same for most brands,I have had a couple over the years and the worst was a .243,it was flat out holding 1moa....................wore my patience and the barrel out chasing better accuracy.I shoot against a couple of fast twist .223's and a .204 at our local SSAA comps and they shoot very well one of the .223's will hold a shade over .6moa which aint to shabby,I am not a fan of the triggers and thats fine if you like them.................obviously havent used anything better or you would expect better,I had a spec tech trigger in the .243 and it made it not to bad.
If you really wanted a Ruger and were going to leave it standard then by all means go for it but....................................if it is going to have some coin and improvements thrown at it latter on there are better options to start with.



Regards Chris.

[Dr G]

The chances of getting a good one is about the same for most brands,

Sorry Chris I read this srtaight after reading the preceeding posts and just about spit my cup of tea over the computer monitor.

kjd wrote:
Mate the more I learn the more I realise how little I know.

Got the same problem... but with women

[kjd]

I am not a fan of the triggers and thats fine if you like them.................obviously havent used anything better or you would expect better,
Regards Chris.

Having a shot at me with that quote mate? The triggers have always been crisp with no creep whats wrong with that?

Out of the 6 Ruger VT's I've fired or have had close friends own 0 out of 6 has shot bad. 6 for 6 shooters for me is damn impressive.

2x 22-250
1x 223 that shot the best groups out of a stock factory rifle I'd seen
1x 25-06
1 x 243 that shoots cloverleaves all day (ask grimo its his)
1x 7-08 that with every load I tried did MOA atleast and never put time into developing a load.

[trevort]

mate has 2 standard rugers, triggers were crap and accuracy ordinary until I convinced him to let me take them to Clancy. The 2 stage trigger in the VT was a completely different beast and once you get used to it is very good. I did fluff a shot or two after picking it up after shooting other rifles and not remembering to allow for the 2 stage pull.

[chris.tyne]

[/quote]Having a shot at me with that quote mate? The triggers have always been crisp with no creep whats wrong with that?[/quote]

Yep guilty as charged ,they might have changed the triggers on the later ones but on mine the triggers were reasonably crisp....for want of a better description,but you can also have a overly heavy crisp trigger to which I dont like,they are no worse or better than most other brands of factory triggers as far as factory triggers go.

[/quote]Out of the 6 Ruger VT's I've fired or have had close friends own 0 out of 6 has shot bad. 6 for 6 shooters for me is damn impressive.

2x 22-250
1x 223 that shot the best groups out of a stock factory rifle I'd seen
1x 25-06
1 x 243 that shoots cloverleaves all day (ask grimo its his)
1x 7-08 that with every load I tried did MOA atleast and never put time into developing a load.[/quote]

It is all rather subjective,what you require and expect compared to the next blokes expectations are likely not going to be the same and it is still the law of averages and the fact that the rifles are made to a price,I remember seeing on one of the yank forums that one manufacturers barrel cost them around $15-$20,so would it be a surprise if any of them shot worth a squirt.
The savages that I have used and seen shoot well but if a factory rifle will hold around 3/4moa I would be pretty happy regardless of manufacturer.
Anyway I am getting of topic now.........................
..............................that rifle that shoots clover leafs should be used on............................something bigger


Regards Chris.

[adamjp]

If you really wanted a Ruger and were going to leave it standard then by all means go for it but....................................if it is going to have some coin and improvements thrown at it latter on there are better options to start with.

I'm going to call you on that Chris. For $1200 you cannot find a new rifle with a better reputation for accuracy. Hell, it even comes with a set of rings!

It takes alot of money spent on a Ruger VT to make them cost the same as a Tikka T3 Varmit, and you can buy a VERY nice scope for the price differential of a Wankington 700 varmiter in tactical black.

A Ruger 77 MkII VT needs two things....
1. A second stud on the forend for the bipod.
2. A bedding job if it is in a 243 or larger case. The recoil will eventually break down any laminated stock so Devcon it first and it's all good.

That will cost you around $40 if you do it yourself, $200 if you go to a gunsmith.

[dangaff]

I wouldn't be complaining even the rings were crap, better than nothing i see it as, put them on a cheap .22 or something.