220 Swift wanted

HiWall · Post by **HiWall** » Wed Sep 05, 2007 5:49 pm

Here is a nice Sako down your way mate!
http://www.austguns.com.au/ShowAd.aspx?id=32

woob614271 · Post by **woob614271** » Wed Sep 05, 2007 8:15 pm

Now THAT'S unusual a Sako Swift; my advice?
BUY IT!

bushchook · Post by **bushchook** » Wed Sep 05, 2007 9:51 pm

Have had a Sako Swift . Very nice and very accurate .

crowbuster · Post by **crowbuster** » Thu Sep 06, 2007 8:24 pm

Now THAT'S unusual a Sako Swift; my advice?
BUY IT!

Welcome jaygee. If you insist on a barrel eating swift, maybe get a couple of spare barrels to go with it ha ha ........

There's a reason the swift is near extinct, the 22/250 & 204s are better....
(in my opinion)

CB

HiWall · Post by **HiWall** » Fri Sep 07, 2007 3:39 am

Better at what mate?

I don't think a properly used Swift will chew out a barrel any quicker than a properly used .22/240 or .204 - abuse anything and it will wear out.

bushchook · Post by **bushchook** » Fri Sep 07, 2007 5:19 pm

crowbuster wrote:
Now THAT'S unusual a Sako Swift; my advice?
BUY IT!
Welcome jaygee. If you insist on a barrel eating swift, maybe get a couple of spare barrels to go with it ha ha ........

There's a reason the swift is near extinct, the 22/250 & 204s are better....
(in my opinion)

CB

I've had Swift and .22/250 and nothing you can load into a .22/250 comes close unless you want to full length size after every shot and trim after every 2 or 3 . The Swift is at least as accurate as the .22/250 (many believe moreso) and has way more punch on large varmints than the .204 at all ranges . Swift has the capacity to produce excellent velocity with slow burning AR2209 (.22/250 doesn't) and mine fired in excess of 2000 rounds and still shot well under MOA .
The quote above is typical of those you hear or read from people who have never owned the original "varmint king" .

crowbuster · Post by **crowbuster** » Fri Sep 07, 2007 8:37 pm

The quote above is typical of those you hear or read from people who have never owned the original "varmint king"

Thought I might touch a nerve with this one, and I wasn't disappointed..

Bushchook you got me.....

.....I have never owned or fired a swift (there are so few around) & my "opinion" as stated is only based on my reading & research into varmint calibres. I don't think anyone can argue the fact that the 220 swift is hard on barrels ( & the 22/250 can be also), however the 204 is a more efficient calibre by achieving the same velocities with far less powder, noise, recoil & barrel wear. Yes it produces less energy, but more than enough for the varmints it was designed for.

HiWall, better at EFFICIENTLY sending a projectile at 4000fps with great accuracy. By efficiently I mean by using a lot less propellent & consequently causing a lot less barrel & throat wear.

Again just an opinion, but even non-swift owners are entitled to those.....

HiWall · Post by **HiWall** » Fri Sep 07, 2007 11:14 pm

however the 204 is a more efficient calibre by achieving the same velocities with far less powder, noise, recoil & barrel wear.

Ah yes, but only to a limited extent - the bigger .22's just give much more of a good thing mate.

Divey · Post by **Divey** » Sat Sep 08, 2007 8:02 am

As previously mentioned, I own two .220 Wilson Arrows. Why two? I made both of them and acquired the second when my brother could no longer go shooting.
The Wilson Arrow is basically an improved .220 Swift. The Swift has a slight problem of the brass continually stretching and needs trimming very often.
The angle shoulder of the Wilson Arrow is increased and the case is more parallel. This prevents the growing cases saga and allows you to pile more slow burning powder into the rounds for a faster velocity than the parent Swift.

In the mid eighties Nick Harvey had a .220 Swift re chambered to a .220 Wilson Arrow and wrote an article for the Australian Sporting Shooter. He raved about the wildcat stating that it was the fastest flattest shooting varmint calibre of all time.

It's good fun to load up some firecrackers every now and then. Bunny busting at 300 yards is the best!

The person creating the hand loads for the Swift burns out the barrel, not the calibre. If you back off the loads to keep velocities down a little they'll last a long time.

As this is a 'Varminters' forum let me say that the Wilson Arrow IMHO is the king of the hill.

Having said all that, I also own a 22-250 Ackley Improved. You can load that round to near the velocity of the Arrow but the accuracy drops of quite significantly.

Regards,
Lindsay.

Post by **kjd** » Sat Sep 08, 2007 9:21 am

What about a 22 Middlestead??

woob614271 · Post by **woob614271** » Sat Sep 08, 2007 11:09 am

on the subject of the 22 Middlestead, the bloke who did the 'smithing on the 416AS runs a slightly shortened variation and swears by it; even pushes 90grain MKs out of his 1:8" barrel at over 3400, he tells me..., and witha slower twist will break 4300 with 55s...
interesting...

Divey · Post by **Divey** » Sat Sep 08, 2007 12:08 pm

kjd wrote:What about a 22 Middlestead??

What in the bloody hell is a 22 Middlestead?? I'm googling again!!!!!

Divey · Post by **Divey** » Sat Sep 08, 2007 12:15 pm

Holy Dooley, have a look at the figures here.

http://www.accuratereloading.com/22-243.html

Only in America!!

I should get some 30 grain projectiles and see how fast I can chuck them out of the Arrow

Regards,
Lindsay.

crowbuster · Post by **crowbuster** » Sat Sep 08, 2007 7:52 pm

Ah yes, but only to a limited extent - the bigger .22's just give much more of a good thing mate

That's why I have a 22/250 & a 204 HiWall......the best of both worlds

CB

alpal · Post by **alpal** » Sat Sep 08, 2007 9:31 pm

Divey,
All these years I been thinking accuratereloading.com is actually Sth African

Regards Alpal
ps it's a great site fella's, definitely worth a look.

AusVarmint

220 Swift wanted