lemmingtons are like holdens you have pull them apart machine them and put parts from other fire arms on them to do what they should have done in the first place.............
I remember when BB bought his little 300 Black and I agree with his thoughts there. For low recoil use from a very light rifle, within 100m, delivering little or no muzzle blast, the idea is sound. It is one of the few uses I can see for that style of cartridge in Australia.
For a similar use (my kids are 10 and 14) I built the little Grendel. I wanted more punch than the 223, and a rifle that was realistic for kids to use and carry all day long. Essentially I used a 223 action to house something with equal power to the 257 Roberts.
As Missed mentioned,why is it that there is so much aftermarkt gear for Remingtons..................surely its not because they are that bad,there is an entire industry of go fast bits built around them.............................................for a reason.
I am still scratching my head to think of what parts are used from other firearm manufacturers that are used to make them right,maybe it was the Sako extractor.............but they dont need them .............fixing a problem that doesnt exist me thinks.
Sorry to the OP for being OT but it will keep the discussion going.
chris.tyne wrote:As Missed mentioned,why is it that there is so much aftermarkt gear for Remingtons..................surely its not because they are that bad,there is an entire industry of go fast bits built around them.............................................for a reason.
I am still scratching my head to think of what parts are used from other firearm manufacturers that are used to make them right,maybe it was the Sako extractor.............but they dont need them .............fixing a problem that doesnt exist me thinks.
Sorry to the OP for being OT but it will keep the discussion going.
Buff Buster wrote:let me put it like this...... what would you rather be hit buy? a tennis ball at 60kmh or a B-Double at 60kmh?
let me know how your 55gr v-max goes on a pigs shoulder at subsonic speeds.....Then come tell me that a 250gr at the same speed is useless....
Hey BB I like your 300 Blackout idea, I have read a little about it when first coming out. You have a good range of pills too from 110 to over 200 that's the beauty of it.
Just tell to stick it where the sun don't shine, Buff. I reckon its a pretty cool little cartridge, wouldn't mind one myself one day, but I think I would prefer a 300Whisper.
IMO the H&R Handirifle that Buff has bought is gonna serve the purpose perfectly for a number of reasons.
Weight - I think he said the whole package comes in at under 7lb, that makes it light enough for the young fella to handle by himself. If anything does go pear shaped BB will be able to provide a quick backup shot or 2.
Twist Rate - These things were made to shoot heavy pills at any speed. That immediately puts it above a 7.62x39 in the equivalent rifle before we even get to recoil. If he wants to load it supersonic with something like a 130gn TSX that should open up very nicely.
The whole argument about low velocity, low noise? Why is there such a huge market for subsonic 22LR ammo? Even if you keep the can out of the argument.
Trajectory. I don't think it matters, hunting a target rich environment, if he can't get close enough another shot is more than likely just around the corner.
Finally. Why the fuck not have one?