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Google & Apple pushed to reveal gun scope app users’ names to feds
Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2019 10:05 am
by The Raven
Google & Apple pushed to reveal gun scope app users’ names to feds
https://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2019/0 ... s-to-feds/
US Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) is looking into illegal exports of a gun scope, and its investigation includes going after Apple and Google to get them to hand over the names of who’s using an associated gun-scope app.
The Department of Justice (DOJ) on Thursday filed a court order demanding that the two companies turn over data on some 10,000 users of Obsidian 4: an app from American Technologies Network Corp. (ATN) that connects the scope to smartphones or tablets via Wi-Fi so that gun owners can watch a live video stream of their hunt and calibrate their smart scope.
Re: Google & Apple pushed to reveal gun scope app users’ names to feds
Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2019 11:15 am
by kjd
Bet you Apple is more reluctant to let the Feds have the data than Google is.
Re: Google & Apple pushed to reveal gun scope app users’ names to feds
Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2019 12:33 pm
by The Raven
kjd wrote: ↑Wed Sep 11, 2019 11:15 am
Bet you Apple is more reluctant to let the Feds have the data than Google is.
The Feds will still get what they want...one way or another.
Re: Google & Apple pushed to reveal gun scope app users’ names to feds
Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2019 6:07 pm
by Rabbitz
A typical 'thin edge of the wedge' usage that ITAR has become.
ITAR is the bane of my life, I've even had to deal with an ITAR covered dishwasher...
Re: Google & Apple pushed to reveal gun scope app users’ names to feds
Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2019 6:12 pm
by kjd
Rabbitz wrote: ↑Wed Sep 11, 2019 6:07 pm
A typical 'thin edge of the wedge' usage that ITAR has become.
ITAR is the bane of my life, I've even had to deal with an ITAR covered dishwasher...
That’s what you get for buying a military grade dishwasher!
Re: Google & Apple pushed to reveal gun scope app users’ names to feds
Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2019 6:28 pm
by macca
The Raven wrote: ↑Wed Sep 11, 2019 10:05 am
Google & Apple pushed to reveal gun scope app users’ names to feds
https://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2019/0 ... s-to-feds/
US Immigration and Customs Enforcement
(ICE) is looking into illegal exports of a gun scope, and its investigation includes going after Apple and Google to get them to hand over the names of who’s using an associated gun-scope app.
The acronym is the really interesting thing in this news. It could be the root of all the issues.
Re: Google & Apple pushed to reveal gun scope app users’ names to feds
Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2019 8:18 pm
by Rabbitz
kjd wrote: ↑Wed Sep 11, 2019 6:12 pm
Rabbitz wrote: ↑Wed Sep 11, 2019 6:07 pm
A typical 'thin edge of the wedge' usage that ITAR has become.
ITAR is the bane of my life, I've even had to deal with an ITAR covered dishwasher...
That’s what you get for buying a military grade dishwasher!
You don't know just how close you are to the truth

Google & Apple pushed to reveal gun scope app users’ names to feds
Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2019 8:33 pm
by The Raven
Has anyone noticed how little US military gear Australia buys now?
There’s a reason...
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Re: Google & Apple pushed to reveal gun scope app users’ names to feds
Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2019 9:26 pm
by kjd
The Raven wrote: ↑Wed Sep 11, 2019 8:33 pm
Has anyone noticed how little US military gear Australia buys now?
There’s a reason...
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ITAR?
Re: Google & Apple pushed to reveal gun scope app users’ names to feds
Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2019 9:32 pm
by The Raven
International Trade and Arms Regulation
In essence the US trying to protect their IP from the bad guys....generally in jurisdictions they technically have no authority over.
There’s more to it but that’s the jist.
It’s why you can’t buys scopes and stocks from the US.
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Re: Google & Apple pushed to reveal gun scope app users’ names to feds
Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2019 10:12 pm
by kjd
The Raven wrote: ↑Wed Sep 11, 2019 9:32 pm
International Trade and Arms Regulation
In essence the US trying to protect their IP from the bad guys....generally in jurisdictions they technically have no authority over.
There’s more to it but that’s the jist.
It’s why you can’t buys scopes and stocks from the US.
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I knew what ITAR was but was answering your question with a question.
So damn annoying.
Re: Google & Apple pushed to reveal gun scope app users’ names to feds
Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2019 10:15 pm
by The Raven
Walking the line
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Re: Google & Apple pushed to reveal gun scope app users’ names to feds
Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2019 10:17 pm
by The Raven
kjd wrote:The Raven wrote: ↑Wed Sep 11, 2019 8:33 pm
Has anyone noticed how little US military gear Australia buys now?
There’s a reason...
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ITAR?
Could be.
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