Google & Apple pushed to reveal gun scope app users’ names to feds

The Raven · Post by **The Raven** » Wed Sep 11, 2019 10:05 am

Google & Apple pushed to reveal gun scope app users’ names to feds

https://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2019/0 ... s-to-feds/

US Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) is looking into illegal exports of a gun scope, and its investigation includes going after Apple and Google to get them to hand over the names of who’s using an associated gun-scope app.

The Department of Justice (DOJ) on Thursday filed a court order demanding that the two companies turn over data on some 10,000 users of Obsidian 4: an app from American Technologies Network Corp. (ATN) that connects the scope to smartphones or tablets via Wi-Fi so that gun owners can watch a live video stream of their hunt and calibrate their smart scope.

Post by **kjd** » Wed Sep 11, 2019 11:15 am

Bet you Apple is more reluctant to let the Feds have the data than Google is.

The Raven · Post by **The Raven** » Wed Sep 11, 2019 12:33 pm

kjd wrote: ↑Wed Sep 11, 2019 11:15 am Bet you Apple is more reluctant to let the Feds have the data than Google is.

The Feds will still get what they want...one way or another.

Rabbitz · Post by **Rabbitz** » Wed Sep 11, 2019 6:07 pm

A typical 'thin edge of the wedge' usage that ITAR has become.

ITAR is the bane of my life, I've even had to deal with an ITAR covered dishwasher...

Post by **kjd** » Wed Sep 11, 2019 6:12 pm

Rabbitz wrote: ↑Wed Sep 11, 2019 6:07 pm A typical 'thin edge of the wedge' usage that ITAR has become.

ITAR is the bane of my life, I've even had to deal with an ITAR covered dishwasher...

That’s what you get for buying a military grade dishwasher!

macca · Post by **macca** » Wed Sep 11, 2019 6:28 pm

The Raven wrote: ↑Wed Sep 11, 2019 10:05 am Google & Apple pushed to reveal gun scope app users’ names to feds

https://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2019/0 ... s-to-feds/

US Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) is looking into illegal exports of a gun scope, and its investigation includes going after Apple and Google to get them to hand over the names of who’s using an associated gun-scope app.

The acronym is the really interesting thing in this news. It could be the root of all the issues.

Rabbitz · Post by **Rabbitz** » Wed Sep 11, 2019 8:18 pm

kjd wrote: ↑Wed Sep 11, 2019 6:12 pm
Rabbitz wrote: ↑Wed Sep 11, 2019 6:07 pm A typical 'thin edge of the wedge' usage that ITAR has become.

ITAR is the bane of my life, I've even had to deal with an ITAR covered dishwasher...
That’s what you get for buying a military grade dishwasher!

You don't know just how close you are to the truth

The Raven · Post by **The Raven** » Wed Sep 11, 2019 8:33 pm

Has anyone noticed how little US military gear Australia buys now?

There’s a reason...

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Post by **kjd** » Wed Sep 11, 2019 9:26 pm

The Raven wrote: ↑Wed Sep 11, 2019 8:33 pm Has anyone noticed how little US military gear Australia buys now?

There’s a reason...

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ITAR?

The Raven · Post by **The Raven** » Wed Sep 11, 2019 9:32 pm

International Trade and Arms Regulation

In essence the US trying to protect their IP from the bad guys....generally in jurisdictions they technically have no authority over.

There’s more to it but that’s the jist.

It’s why you can’t buys scopes and stocks from the US.

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Post by **kjd** » Wed Sep 11, 2019 10:12 pm

The Raven wrote: ↑Wed Sep 11, 2019 9:32 pm International Trade and Arms Regulation

In essence the US trying to protect their IP from the bad guys....generally in jurisdictions they technically have no authority over.

There’s more to it but that’s the jist.

It’s why you can’t buys scopes and stocks from the US.

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I knew what ITAR was but was answering your question with a question.
So damn annoying.

The Raven · Post by **The Raven** » Wed Sep 11, 2019 10:15 pm

Walking the line

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The Raven · Post by **The Raven** » Wed Sep 11, 2019 10:17 pm

kjd wrote:
The Raven wrote: ↑Wed Sep 11, 2019 8:33 pm Has anyone noticed how little US military gear Australia buys now?

There’s a reason...

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ITAR?

Could be.

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