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Regulations on trigger safety's.

Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 3:49 pm
by native hunter
G"day
Wondering if there is any ruling on having a safety on a rifle if used at a rifle range, be it for F class or bench competition.??
Also is there any ruling on trigger weight.??
Regards
Native

Re: Regulations on trigger safety's.

Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 3:52 pm
by chris.tyne
Afaik if it has a safety fitted it is supposed to be operational,now if you remove the safety you haven't got one to operate so that's ok.
Having said that I dont think I have seen a safety checked.

Regards Chris.

Re: Regulations on trigger safety's.

Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 8:02 pm
by Sam Walker
NRAA (F class + Fullbore) have a "fast cycle" test where your rifle should not fire when the bolt is worked quickly. One of the F classes (not sure which - Std or Open) have a min trigger pull of 1.5kg :roll: while the other has " any safe trigger"
There's definately some dinosaur thinking there - IMHO

Re: Regulations on trigger safety's.

Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 8:21 pm
by Flash Gordon
Sam,
How about studying the NRAA rule book before leaping in. Either you obey the rules, or do something else. Obviously you do not shoot either of the F/class matches, otherwise you would not be flying kites.
Mike.

Re: Regulations on trigger safety's.

Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 8:49 pm
by native hunter
Thanks for the input fella's.
Mike -I think you are a bit hard on the bloke, you criticised him but did not give an answer either. :o
So what is the ruling.??
Regards

Re: Regulations on trigger safety's.

Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 10:00 pm
by a.JR
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Re: Regulations on trigger safety's.

Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 10:52 pm
by Sam Walker
Sorry Mike, I couldn't be arsed looking up the rule book - I don't even own one, and made that pretty clear in my post which gave the gist of some of the rules. In fact I have shot F class matches, but for the last few years I've lived in a very remote spot, and would have to catch a plane to shoot F class. Which I'll do in the future, when my Omark project is done, unless I find one of the other long distance shoots (Fly or 600m BR) more enjoyable

If anybody wants to get into the nitty gritty tedious details go to Ozfclass forums. They have specific sections for debate on the rules. Anybody with half a brain can see plain as day that there's issues and dissatisfaction with some of the rules, and the governing body. It's been mentioned on these forums too.

If you're full bottle on the rules, back up your comments by including the facts. All my post said was "it's kinda like this" which I will admit was going off half cocked. IMHO your response was unnecessarily belligerent.

I did state IMHO at the end of the post (google it if you don't know what it means) so if you want to get into an internet pissing contest over it, join the far queue

Re: Regulations on trigger safety's.

Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2009 10:48 am
by morerams
Anyone running a comp should have a rulebook you can read, so just go along to what ever competition takes your fancy and meet some real shooting people who are actually doing what you may be interested in, you will get much understanding of what the shoot is about on a range than you will on the net.

Re: Regulations on trigger safety's.

Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2009 2:37 pm
by native hunter
Morerams- I was just enquiring on safetys, I shoot at the range almost every week, It's just a point I never seemed to ask until it came to mind while at the computer.
We all are not just computer shooters although there are plenty out there that dont fire a shot for 6 months of the year but seem to give out advice as if they live and breath guns,go figure.!!
Regards
Native.

Re: Regulations on trigger safety's.

Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2009 6:07 pm
by Flash Gordon
Hello Sam,
In NRAA target rifle, and F/class, no requirement for safety catches.
In service rifle shooting, under their rules, all rifles are to have a functioning safety catch.
There are different trigger weights for some of the classes. Target rifle 1.5 kg`s, F/standard 1.0kg`s, F/open no weight, safe trigger, must pass vigorous cycle test.
Field rifles, need safe trigger, trigger guard, and pass vigorous cycle test.
Irrespective of trigger weight limits, all rifles are given a vigorous cycle test before shooting, at the first range of the day.
Hope this helps. Hope you can get in some F/class shooting before long. Alice Springs and Dawin have great ranges.
Mike.

Re: Regulations on trigger safety's.

Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2009 10:14 pm
by Sam Walker
Cheers Mike, that's useful info IMHO 1.5, or even 1 kg is excessive for a target rifle. I prefer a trigger weight about the same pressure as the keys on my keyboard :lol:
I haven't been to Micket Creek yet, most times I've been in Darwin have been too busy or just passing through, but I did get to meet Bob Dyer and buy some of his bullets.
Cheers
Sam

Re: Regulations on trigger safety's.

Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 7:54 am
by Mick
As far as I'm concerned, if by the time you've found the trigger the rifle hasn't fired, it's too heavy. :lol:

But yea, as for safetys, I dont know of any requirement. I think removing them is safer in any case. Some people tend to rely on, and even trust them when they are fitted.