AusVarmint

I had a great weekend at silverdale and was pressent when new 3 target and 6 target records were shot. Was pretty much an equipment race, conditions were good all weekend.

Some observations
1st place Lilja Barrel, Second place Shilen, 3rd and 4th Broughton, You need a barrel from the USA, hand lapped.
First and 4th places Hall actions, 2nd and 3rd Bruno actions, Action needs to be threaded? or action does not matter!
1st, 2nd, and 3rd used Eley ammo, 4th Lapua. my new rifle will shoot eley if it the death of me.
Gunsmith, 1st=Clancy, 2nd Cookie, 3rd Himself, 4th Himself, there are many good gunsmiths.
The factory guns, Walther, Blieker, Anshultz, not so good.

And the kicker, you must tune your rifle in the conditions you shoot in, weather was colder then most matches, 1st, 2nd, and 4th come from Orange, 3rd from the snowy mountins and given the results of those same 4 shooters in Brisbane tunning for the climate is critical.

Brett

Edit, no one got fisted.

Brett,

We know J.W smith won but who were the other placegetters

Steve

1st, JW Smith
2nd Geoff Knight
3rd Brian Mitchell
4th, Brett Wilson

Brett33 wrote:...
Fist and 4th places...

I will win fist place some day - this will not be the forum that I declare my achievement though

G"Day All,
Yeah white meat I picked that up also.!!
Well done Jim,!!
You've made some big statements there Brett,You havent been reading calfee to much again have you.??
Regards
Native

Brett,

3rd place wasn't no factory Brno.

Consistency is the key to this game, not having a custom action or screwed action...if it were then you and your custom action rimfire mates wouldn't have got your arses kick in Brisbane in IRB by an Anschutz...young Mitch is the best Rimfire shooter in this country and has been for 2 years and will be for a lot longer because he is consistent...when the conditions get tough he will kick you so hard you wont want to come back...it's in the shooter as well as the rifle...you need both...not just a good rifle.

Steve

native hunter wrote:You've made some big statements there Brett,You havent been reading calfee to much again have you.??

I don't see much in my statements
"You need a barrel from the USA, hand lapped", I will stand by that.
"Action needs to be threaded? or action does not matter!" That statement is nothing really, not commiting one way or another.
"my new rifle will shoot eley if it the death of me", thats hardly a Calfee rant.
"there are many good gunsmiths", I am certain we all new this.
"The factory guns, Walther, Blieker, Anshultz, not so good" The first of the factory guns was 8th, next was 14th, thats not good in my books.
"you must tune your rifle in the conditions " thats the exact oppersite to Calfee maybe just luck the top 4 shoot in cold conditions for 6 or 7 months of the year.
Brett

steven wrote:3rd place wasn't no factory Brno.
Consistency is the key to this game, not having a custom action or screwed action...if it were then you and your custom action rimfire mates wouldn't have got your arses kick in Brisbane in IRB by an Anschutz...young Mitch is the best Rimfire shooter in this country and has been for 2 years and will be for a lot longer because he is consistent...when the conditions get tough he will kick you so hard you wont want to come back...it's in the shooter as well as the rifle...you need both...not just a good rifle.
Steve

Steve, 3rd and 5th were shot with a factory Bruno RF action, the Mithchel's left the home made action at home for this comp. It does have a Broughton barrel fitted but I am certain you could work that out from the listings of Barrel placings.

I agree Mitch is a great shooter, one of the few I go into a match trying to beat, but my point was the conditions were great it was a equipment race not as much on shooter ability and rifle tune for the conditions. Mitch was still top 10 but 15 points behind the leader and 9 back from me, that is a fair margin back.
Conditions were tough in NZ, ask him how he went there. I put him in the top 5 RF BR shooters in Australia but not number 1 yet, but he will be, as soon as he plays the equipment race.
Brett

OOOHH,
We are a bit touchy today.!!
Brett-One shoot does not set the standard.!!
So when all the shooters get their new actions and barrels from the order you made there should be no excuses when they turn up at a comp.??
We all have good days and bad.
Like steve said,Mitchells using a stock Anschutz barrel and action and he does very well with it.!!
Notice how the same people are always in the top half of the field,not purely because of the gun they use but more than they are good shooters and and can read the conditions.
Most people dont step up to custom till they reach a point where their ability warrants it,hence why their mostly custom builds at the top.!!
Im just happy to be shooting.
Regards
Native

G'day All,
Edit-No one got fisted.!!!
Thats a classic Brett.
Regards
Native

Good time had at the NSW IRB on the weekend and congrats goes to James, good shooting and two records, you would have to be happy with that.
Geoff you should shoot well in the US soon all the best, well Brett you will have to prepare your self and take enough bullets to complete the match when over there, you will be in a teams event and don't let your team down with not enough good bullets like last weekend.
Brett you quoted about Mitchell that, Conditions were tough in NZ ask him how he went there, what is ment by this, Mitchell shot his personal best at the time when he was over there and the 3 teams of 2 got on very well and worked together, the 3 teams were only within 1 point and 1 point could have changed things around either one way or the other and there was this respect for each other towards each other, they were all equals over there and got on well, Australia 12&3, not bad and a good experience for Mitchell being only 16 at the time and the next Rimfire member was about 37, Mitchell shot well and was proud the have qualified and came home with a silver, all 6 members scores wer within 5 points.

The other thing you quoted was: Mitch was still top 10 but 15 points behind the leader and 9 back from me, that is a fair margin????

Just something to ponder Brett:

2009 IRB Nationals:
Mitchell's score was 1465.68 4th place overall.

2010 IRB Nationals:
Mitchell's score was 1475.67 1st place overall.
Your score Brett was 1462.48 (13 points and 19 centres behind Mitchell) 6th place overall.

NSW State IRB:
Mitchell's score was 1476.67 1st place overall.

Qld State IRB:
Mitchell's score was 1473.59 1st place overall.

2010 RBA Nationals:
Mitchells score was 1471.?? 2nd place overall.
Your score Brett was ???? behind Mitchell's score, was it 6th or 7th???

2011 IRB Nationals:
Mitchell's score was 1487.76 1st place overall.
Your score Brett was 1447.53 (40 points and 23 centres behind Mitchell) 20th place overall.

2011 NSW State IRB:
You shot well, every one shot well and had a good time, but Mitchell was 15 points behind the leader and only 9 points behind you, just remember Mitchell is only 17 and using a gun that was 20years old before he was born, Mitchells score is always around 1470 to 1487, what is yours, when you get good shooters together you will always swap placings, but you will have to alway be up there all the time, Mitchell was happy about his score at Silverdale and learnt a lot and that in it's self could be dangerous.

It would be very interesting on peoples veiws on who are the top 5 rimfire Benchrest shooters in Australia at the moment, there are a lot of good rimfire shooters out there which you can't discount, lets have a poll on peoples veiws, input would be very interesting.


Regards Harold.

WOW, i think everyone needs to change their tampons,

Brett has made some observations, and comments (these are opinions) and everyone seems to have decided to beat up on Brett. I think they are all very fair calls.
The conditions were really good for a change. It is the first big shoot that I can remember where it has not been really windy. It did become an equipment race over the weekend at times and I really think that is a fair comment.

I on the other hand showed that even in good conditions I can make a mess of it, comes to a big shoot and I can stuff it up really well.

How about we all take a deep breath and start to relax again.

G"day Tasco,
Im hearin ya mate.!!
This rimfire banter does get out of hand at times.
I suppose we all need to really focus on what it is all about,FUN.
I would hope it does not go down the same road as plenty of US sites have gone.
Everyone is entitled to an opinion.
Regards
Native

Hi Tasco , Sorry to hear you didnt shoot well. But you can make it up at the RBA this weekend , see you there ? Cheers Ron

Well here we are ...
Brett keep posting your opinion mate I for one enjoy reading your posts and I am sure many others do as well.
Now as far as the little debate ...
I do not see Brett's comments as being negative to young Mitch (who I have shot against many times in Centrefire and who I think is both a very good style of a young man and a very talented shooter) it was simply Brett's opinion and Mitchell would be the first to say he's entitled to his opinion .. so lets get over that crap.
Brett makes a great contribution to the rimfire arena as far as I can see .. he is a very good shooter and attends events, he builds rifles which others do well with and offers advice freely & openly .... now I dont know how much more you can expect of the bloke.
Now like all of us Brett has opinions and I am all for hearing them, along with everyone elses. I would not read the rimfire postings if they boring and neither would you.
Disagree all you like, post your own opinion but lets not let things get out of hand ... Its not like Rugby League where you change codes to Aussie Rules or Rugby Union shooters only have shooting. No accusations are needed.
And being rimfire shooters you would all own a comfy chair have a well worn housebrick next to it for the days you cant get to the range. So smack yourself in the head, curse the flier and move on.